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call or fold - Sun Jul 21, 2013, 04:12 PM
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I dont normally open this hand UTG but the blinds stats looked fishy and im confident i can get away from a weak one pair hand if villain shows much interest in the pot.

When he donked into me i thought hes only doing this with either an ace or a 6, so im basically risking my stack for a measley 20c i had in the pot anyway.

Dont have any solid ereads on villain other than he plays a lot of hands his AF was 1 but like i said i know hes only doing this with 2 hands so should i be calling or folding.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:08 PM
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Hey Mike When you post hands for eval don't post the results it'll help in the discussion of the hands... as played i'm ok with a fold on the river... at best you're splitting and with so little invested it not worth risking your entire stack for 30c

another thing with a AF of 1... which is pretty passive should be a alarm when he bets or raises into you
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:08 PM
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The river is a fold. I'm sure you've heard the advice "River donk shoves are always the nuts" by now. While the phrase isn't completely true, it's a pretty accurate guideline.

There's another "rule" that applies for spots like this one: "If you're chopping at best, don't call". It's a rule that took me a long time to learn. I used to call in spots like this very often. You know those spots where the board makes a straight (like T9876) or it's double paired (like 552JJ) and you think "He's betting big to try and get me off a chop"? Most of the time you're right. But you don't make money by calling to chop at best. Sometimes you'll call and find out villain has a better straight than the one on the board, or he made a boat and your ace high on a double-paired board is no good.

You can call in spots like this and chop quite often, but when you're not splitting the pot, you're losing your entire stack. Added to that is that when there's a chopped pot, you both lose a few cents to rake anyway. In short, you cannot make any profit with a call here.

So take a mental note of this rule: If you're thinking of calling in the hope of chopping, don't! Calling for a chop - when there's a reasonable chance you're not chopping at all - is a leak.

Hope this helps!


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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:10 PM
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arty is so eloquent... lol hi
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:25 PM
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Yeah makes sense i guess i can adjust to that rule i spose, obviously when he donked i knew he had the straight but i figured he done that with a 6 or a A so i wanted a chop but if you say dont call to chop thats fine by me.

Pinoy i dont know how to stop the showdown il have a look at the next hand i post im sure il work it out i guess you have to delete some of the text in the hand you put into the hand reader thing.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:51 PM
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Yeah makes sense i guess i can adjust to that rule i spose, obviously when he donked i knew he had the straight but i figured he done that with a 6 or a A so i wanted a chop but if you say dont call to chop thats fine by me.

Pinoy i dont know how to stop the showdown il have a look at the next hand i post im sure il work it out i guess you have to delete some of the text in the hand you put into the hand reader thing.
when you're putting the hand in the replayer just delete the text at the bottom right before your last action... yeah you have the right idea
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:51 PM
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sorry error


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