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MTT late game question?! - Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:52 PM
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Hey everyone,

I recently finished an Open League Tournament in 285th place out of 10,000 entrants...given that it is within the top 3% of entrants, I am pretty pleased with this result although I have a question about the way I played the hand I got knocked out with.

I'm on the button, short-stacked with 10k in chips
Small Blind = 60k chips
Big Blind = sitting out
Everyone else folds, action is on me Pre-Flop with 2-2

I decide because I am in position, I am going to raise all-in (seeing as I was short-stacked and needed to make a shove)
Small Blind calls my all in with A-4o

Flop: Blank-4-Blank
Turn: 4
River: Blank

I would have normally neglected shoving Quacks in late position on the button and I'm wondering given my situation if it was the right move?
Please provide some insight on this situation!
Did I make the right move and draw unlucky?
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
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Hi Courtland754!

What were the blinds? I'm most likely going to shove here (could be a fold a small % of the time too), but knowing the blind amount would help, as these tourneys have a totally different strategy compared to a cash mtt.

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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:15 PM
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:18 PM
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Hi Courtland754!

What were the blinds? I'm most likely going to shove here (could be a fold a small % of the time too), but knowing the blind amount would help, as these tourneys have a totally different strategy compared to a cash mtt.

John (JWK24)
Thank you for the response John,

Blinds were 600/1200 ante 120
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:42 PM
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If the blinds were that low.. then I'm NOT shoving. I am going to make a standard raise to 2.5BB or 3000. I do not want my tourney life on the line in a league game unless I have either a premium made hand (QQ, KK or AA) or that I'll be ahead after all 5 cards are on the board.

I do NOT want to take chances in these games, as every spot that I gain is worth more and more league points and the end of the month leaderboard standings are the ONE and only GOAL in them.

If I miss the flop or the opp 3-bets me, I'm mucking my 22 here.

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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:59 PM
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If the blinds were that low.. then I'm NOT shoving. I am going to make a standard raise to 2.5BB or 3000. I do not want my tourney life on the line in a league game unless I have either a premium made hand (QQ, KK or AA) or that I'll be ahead after all 5 cards are on the board.

I do NOT want to take chances in these games, as every spot that I gain is worth more and more league points and the end of the month leaderboard standings are the ONE and only GOAL in them.

If I miss the flop or the opp 3-bets me, I'm mucking my 22 here.

John (JWK24)
Thank you for your feedback John!
I will take that into consideration next time I'm in a similar situation!
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:10 PM
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Folded to hero on the button with 8BB with bonus feature that BB is sitting out, really surprised the advice is not ship it!
I would never, ever be raising nearly a third of my stack with 22 and looking for a good flop - they don't happen much.
I get that there are points on offer for surviving further, but the 2000+ chips we get when we shove and pick up blinds and antes or win versus the SB are going to help survive further too.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:18 PM
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Congrats on finishing in the top 3% - the open is a minefield.

With ~8bb left, and you are well into very good positive points, it's shove or fold. No point raising if you are planning to fold to any pre-flop aggression or play fit or fold on the flop.

Find a spot, preferably in position in an unopened pot, shove and pray.

Otherwise, time bank to the max (maybe you'll get lucky and wake up with a premium) and squeeze out a few extra points while you blind out.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 09:49 PM
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Folded to hero on the button with 8BB with bonus feature that BB is sitting out, really surprised the advice is not ship it!
I would never, ever be raising nearly a third of my stack with 22 and looking for a good flop - they don't happen much.
I get that there are points on offer for surviving further, but the 2000+ chips we get when we shove and pick up blinds and antes or win versus the SB are going to help survive further too.
In a cash tourney, I'm snap-shoving.. but not in a league game.

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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:01 PM
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Before reading all the replies, I would have shoved with ducks in the same situation too!
Good job on top 3%!
 

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