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KK on AAx flop - Sat Jul 27, 2013, 05:02 AM
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I played this hand at the start of a $0.01/0.02 Zoom session, so I didn't have any info on the villain.


What do you think I should do in this spot?

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Sat Jul 27, 2013, 05:57 AM
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Preflop against a limper at 2NL, I would go for a bigger raise 0.10-0.12. When he limp/min-raises us its gross because some players will do that with AA, but whatever we have KK and he could be spewing off with some random PP or AK, I want to raise big and try to get it in. I'd make it 0.5.

I'm folding flop. I don't plan to hero call here against someone I have no reads on.

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Sat Jul 27, 2013, 09:56 PM
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Hi lyoung,

I would actually probably call off with KK. I'm sure I'm paying the piper some of the time here, but it seems really hard to believe that he's got AA or AK and playing it in this manner. Certainly the limp-min-reraise could be those holdings, but we re-popped it to .40c and he chose not to 5b us with those? I would think most of the time a player limp-reraising with the monsters is stacking them pre when they get 4b. If they flat the 4b with them, it's to be a bit tricky/trappy, but then someone of that mind set is never open shoving for the size of the pot when they flop this hard. So since all the actions put together make little sense to me for AA or AK, I'd look him up and be ready to make a note regardless, considering this my first read.


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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:23 AM
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Thanks both of you for the feedback, the hand played out like this:

As you can see I did make the call, because I didn't think it to be too likely he had an Ace. Like you said Dave, he would probably 4bet AK and AA pre, and I also figured that with two Aces on the flop it is a lot less likely he would have an Ace, simply because there are fewer left for him to have, therefore hands with aces making up a smaller part of his range.
Because of this to me it felt like an easier call than if the board had only had one Ace, such as A85r. Do you think that is a correct way to think?
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:22 PM
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Well while it's true with 2 aces on the board it's less likely he has one, it's not impossible, so the real key is ranging him and evaluating if his play makes sense for the hands that beat us, AA and AK. Limp-reraise/flat pre, then overbet shove the flop into you makes no sense.


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