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Fro - Sat Jul 27, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Trying to build a bankroll from $8 if i get it
 
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Sun Jul 28, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Hi 123Aashutosh,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
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Hand replay - Sun Jul 28, 2013, 01:13 PM
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in this hand i hit top pair on the flop. two people raised and i re raised on the button. should i have flat called or was it the right play
 
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Completed all 3 tasks - Sun Jul 28, 2013, 01:16 PM
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i have completed the 3 steps for the promotion.
 
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Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:27 PM
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i have completed the 3 steps for the promotion.
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:45 AM
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Hi 123Aashutosh! I'll take a look at the hand in post #4.

You have T9o on the button facing a minraise and several calls. I think calling is OK, because you have position in a multiway pot, so will be able to see what other villains do before taking action. With this hand, I wouldn't go crazy with just one pair. In a multiway pot, the winning hand is usually top two pairs or better. The flop comes T32, so you made top pair, average kicker. There's a bet and a call, and I would always just call. Whenever I have a made hand and I'm considering betting or raising for value, I ask the question: "Can I get called by worse?". You decided to raise the flop, but what worse hands are calling? Do villains have T8 or T7? I doubt it. If they like this flop, they probably have better hands than yours. Both villains call your raise. I would be worried at least one of them has a ten with a better kicker, but QQ/JJ can't be ruled out either. It's also possible that a villain flopped a set of 3s or 2s.
You make trips on the turn, so it seems unlikely that someone else has the case ten. Villain 3 donks out very small, with a bet of just 10 into 153. Raising for value is OK now, as this looks like a blocking bet by a weak hand. If you have the best hand, you want to get value. Both villains call and the river comes a jack. You've ended up with just trips with a 9 kicker. The first villain actually open-folds, which is quite funny. The second checks, and you make a small value bet. I quite like this bet, as villain likely has a weak hand. You need to bet quite small here in order to squeak out some more value. His hand isn't shown, but I'd expect him to have something like JJ or 99 that refused to give you credit for trips. Nice hand.

Hope this helps!

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Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Excellent!

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Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Thank you very much ArtySmokesPS. Learnt a lot from your analysis
 
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Lost Hand - Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:58 PM
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i was short stacked and shoved on the flop hoping the others missed the dry board. had 2 over cards though. was the play really bad
 
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3 reasons for big bets - Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:03 PM
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3 reasons for big bets would be

1. to put pressure and bluff off your opponents if you think he's weak
2. to make your hand seem like a bluff and get called when actually you have a really strong hand. generally this kind of the bet works on the river.
3. to protect your hands against draws on a wet board generally on the flop or turn
 
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Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:41 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
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Thu Aug 01, 2013, 03:36 AM
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i was short stacked and shoved on the flop hoping the others missed the dry board. had 2 over cards though. was the play really bad
Hi 123Aashutosh,

Your stack size is awkward here. You have a bit too much to be open shoving. Yet, not enough for much postflop play. Raising 4bbs as you did looks great. AK is too strong of a hand to be folding, but we do have to remember that it is not a made hand in the same way that a pocket pair is. We need to connect with the board.

You were a bit unlucky to get a string of callers. Getting three callers made the pot so large that you only had enough money behind for a single pot sized bet. Moreover, with three opponents, the likelyhood of one of them having a pocket pair, or pairing the board, is quite high. Moving all in as you did will rarely get everyone to fold. Since you missed the flop completely, I would rather check the flop hoping to see the turn for free, but fold to any bet. Note, had you flopped a A or K, then I would move all in every time.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Thu Aug 01, 2013, 11:04 AM
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Hi 123Aashutosh,

Please let us know when you have passed your cash quiz, so we may proceed to the next step!

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Completed all 3 tasks - Fri Aug 02, 2013, 01:54 AM
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Hi HokyPokyToo

i have completed the cash game quiz along with the other two tasks.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 11:38 AM
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Hi 123Aashutosh,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
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Lost Hand - Sat Aug 03, 2013, 08:08 AM
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had lost a few hands before this where i should have won and den played this very bad. lost all


Last edited by 123Aashutosh; Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 08:28 AM.. Reason: had posted the wrong hand link
 
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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 11:37 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 09:19 PM
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Hi again 123Aashutosh! I'll run you through the hand in post #17.

You have JJ in the big blind, faced with a raise and a call. I would most likely just call here. Although JJ is one of the best starting hands, it loses some value in full ring games against passive players, because you'll often be multiway and the flop will contain overcards to your pair the majority of the time. It's one of the hardest hands to play well. For this reason, I usually treat JJ a bit like TT or 99. I'll be happy if I flop an overpair, but ideally I'd like to make a set of trips. When you re-raise pre-flop, you're usually hoping that everyone folds, because playing a bloated pot with JJ is not much fun unless you get a great flop. You did indeed decide to 3-bet and you made it a pretty large size. Alarm bells should start ringing when the villain flat calls this big re-raise. He will show up with AQ/AQs/QQ-TT pretty often. You're only way ahead of TT, and you'll only be happy if the flop contains a jack, or is 9-high or lower. The flop comes A94 this time. This is a tricky one. You have to act first, but you have to turn your hand into a bluff if you decide to bet. You can get QQ to fold if you represent you have an ace, but you have no chance at getting AK/AQ to fold top pair. As this is a 3-bet pot, you only need to bet half pot to get the job done. If villain calls, you can give him credit for an ace, and just shut down unless you hit your 2-outer. As played, you check the flop and villain checks behind. This makes it seem like he has QQ-TT, but he might slowplay AK if he is good enough to recognise you have KK-JJ, because he could induce a bluff by checking. The turn comes a 6, and you deicded to check. I would prefer betting. By checking, you give the villain the opportunity to bet, but you have no idea if he's betting for value or as a bluff. By playing passibely, you let your opponent have the driving seat. Check-calling means you get taken to Valuetown against your wishes. The river is about as blank as you can get. You check, villain bets, and you decide to check-raise all in. This isn't good. What are you repping? That 2 can't have helped you, as you re-raised pre-flop. Your line makes no sense, and looks like a total bluff. Villain is always calling with top pair, particularly as your all in bet isn't big enough to scare him.
I think there are a couple of lessons to learn here. Firstly, I wouldn't get too aggressive pre-flop with JJ, because you'll usually get action from hands that have good equity against you, and you'll hate the majority of flops. Secondly, if you are the pre-flop raiser, and are out of position, then you should either bet the flop and give up on the turn, or just check-fold the flop. Check-calling is never a good line to take unless you have a draw. With 2 outs against a range that likely has you crushed, I would only put money in on one street.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
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No reply - Mon Aug 05, 2013, 02:22 AM
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