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Bankroll Builder - Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:15 AM
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Hello people,

I am new to PokerStars and I would like to be part of this Bank Builder Promotion. Thanks in advance!
 
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Sun Jul 28, 2013, 11:51 AM
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Hello people,

I am new to PokerStars and I would like to be part of this Bank Builder Promotion. Thanks in advance!
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Hello mrags29,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Hand Replay - Mon Jul 29, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Step one: Done watching and comprehending the video.

Step two:




Had Pocket Jacks pre-flop and I think I raised the wrong amount since most of the table called it. Flop was a bit wet since it has possibilities for straight draws so I pushed all-in out of position which was a bit risky.


My concern is that I notice that everytime i get monster hands pre-flop I tend to bet the wrong amount which leads to me getting outdrawn/folding because of wet board. How much should I have betted pre-flop? And was pushing all-in out of position post-flop with that kind of flop justify a protection bet? How would you have played it?


Step three: Will be taking the quiz in a few more hours

Last edited by mrags29; Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 01:49 PM..
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 01:01 PM
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Hi mrags29

Thanks for posting the hand but unfortunately you were playing at the wrong kind of table for this promotion. If you re-read my previous post, you will see that you need to play at 9-player tables.

So please post an interesting hand from one of those tables and we'll be happy to analyse it for you.

flophitter
 
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Mistake - Mon Jul 29, 2013, 01:15 PM
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Above post edited now. Please go check it

Last edited by mrags29; Mon Jul 29, 2013 at 01:49 PM..
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Hi mrags29,

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers!

flophitter
 
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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
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Hi mrags29!

I can understand your concern over bet sizes, as this is a huge key when playing poker.

With JJ, I'm going to make a standard opening raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 1 limp (the player that posted a blind, a HUGE mistake), I will raise to 4BB or 40 chips. Players that bet much more or much less are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opponent, as they normally bet more with better hands and less with marginal ones. This is something that I absolutely want to avoid doing.

I now see a semi-coordinated board in a 6-way flop and get an abnormally small bet in front of me that is called. Post-flop bets need to be made based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture. With 4 or more opps, I need to make a pot-sized bet or raise, so I will raise to 1290. I do not want to bet less than a pot-sized raise as this can give the opps the correct odds to draw. If I had less opps in the pot, then I could bet less (1/2 pot for 1 opp, 2/3 for two and 3/4 for three).

The key with this hand is to not make a huge overbet preflop. Standard bets and raises will go a long way toward concealing my hand, so that the opps don't know whether I have AA, JJ, 33, AK, JTs or total air.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Mon Jul 29, 2013, 07:20 PM
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Now just let me know when you have that quiz pass.
 
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Quiz passed - Tue Jul 30, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Hello,

Just passed the quiz
 
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Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:35 AM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Check raise? - Thu Aug 01, 2013, 09:16 AM
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Hello,


Took some time for me to reply since I had my hands full of work schedule. I decided to donk after a few hands of no action and i luckily flopped a straight. I decided to slow play this hand, was it a good decision or shouldve I bombarded the table? I read him good, having Ace and a good kicker.

 
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3 Reasons why a player would want to raise - Thu Aug 01, 2013, 09:22 AM
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3 Reasons why a player would want to make a big raise

to put a lot of pressure on opponents
-to bluff people off decent hand
-to gain value from very strong hands
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 03:24 AM
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Hello,


Took some time for me to reply since I had my hands full of work schedule. I decided to donk after a few hands of no action and i luckily flopped a straight. I decided to slow play this hand, was it a good decision or shouldve I bombarded the table? I read him good, having Ace and a good kicker.

Hi mrags29,

Nice pot

52o is a really bad hand. We never want to bluff with these types of hands preflop. So, checking your option was perfect, and you get a miracle flop. Now the question becomes "How do I maximize my profit?"

Since the villain limped in preflop, I was surprized to see he had a hand as strong as AJ. I would have put him on a much wider range of hands. Either way, one very solid general rule for 2NL is value bet the heck out of your opponents when you flop a strong hand (set or better). Since the villain limped in, I would have bet less than you did on the flop, or even considered checking-calling or check-raising. We want to keep the villain in the hand and thus far we have no idea if the flop helped him. Betting more than the pot as you did is normally not the best choice. We don't want to risk the villain folding. Many of the hands he would limp in with such as suited connectors and small pairs might get scared off by the A on the flop.

As played, you bet and the villain raises. This is a great indication that the villain has a hand he likes. Now we can bet/raise with more confidence that the villain will stay in the hand. Again, you could have 3-bet the flop, but I like calling as you did.

On the turn, notice that you are out of position. By checking, you risk the villain checking behind. In order to get the maximum out of the hand, I typically recommend building the pot ourself by betting as early and often as possible. I would suggest leading out on the turn with a 50%-70% pot sized bet. Luckily the villain did indeed bet into you. Calling is fine, but I would prefer a raise. First off, the there are now two diamonds on the board. We don't want to risk the villain rivering a flush. Moreover, even if the villain is not on a flush draw, a diamond on the river may scare him off of making a new bet or calling a bet from you. Bet/raise now while the villain still has hopes of improving his hand. This is an important poker principle.

Similar to the logic for betting on the turn, I would lead with a bet on the river. We cannot always expect the villain to cooperate by making a pot sized bet as he did in this spot. I would lead out with a 35%-50% pot sized bet. This is small enough to allow single pair hands to call and also induce a raise from many better hands.

Remember, at 2NL people have a hard time folding made hands. Value bet, value bet, value bet and maximize your profits!

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 03:19 PM
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Hi mrags29, now just let me know when you pass the Cash Game quiz
 
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Quiz passed - Fri Aug 02, 2013, 05:20 PM
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Hello. I just passed the quiz.
 
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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 06:20 AM
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Hello ,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

flophitter
 
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10 VPS done - Sat Aug 03, 2013, 06:35 PM
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Hello I have 16 VPS in my account now
 
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Response? - Mon Aug 05, 2013, 02:19 PM
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Any response to this?
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2013, 08:54 AM
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Any response to this?
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