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A day in the life of someone not so lucky as others - Fri Aug 02, 2013, 03:21 PM
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this cannot be serious right?
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Pretty sick beat, but it might surprise you to know that you only have 80.5% equity pre-flop in this situation. In other words, you'll lose in this spot slightly more often than you would if it was the standard AA vs KK cooler. Heads up against KQ or AKs, you're completely crushing, but multiway you'll still lose one time out of every 5.


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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 04:36 PM
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Nope, an ace on the river would have been sick.
I just think the hand was a standard cooler, not impressed, sorry.
It still sucks though, unlucky.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2013, 04:40 PM
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Look at it from the opp's point of view.

First opp has to put 368 into a pot of 868 (42.4%). With AKs and a dinky min-raise, I wouldn't use anything less than a 15-20% range for the opp and I'm WELL ahead of that range (it's about +15-20% EV play for them to shove).

The second opp has to put 496 into 1462 (33.9%). With the first shover being short, I wouldn't put them on a range lower than 10% and if you look at pokerstove against that and the min-raiser's range (20%), they have 26.4% equity.. so they should NOT be shoving. KQ plays really bad against shoves, which is why I don't like calling a shove with it. I'll shove KQ, but not call a shove with it.

From this, no way in this world, if I'm the first opp with AKs that I'm laying this down here.

Next time, make a standard raise instead of a min... it will help your cause tremendously.

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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 12:58 AM
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Look at it from the opp's point of view.

First opp has to put 368 into a pot of 868 (42.4%). With AKs and a dinky min-raise, I wouldn't use anything less than a 15-20% range for the opp and I'm WELL ahead of that range (it's about +15-20% EV play for them to shove).

The second opp has to put 496 into 1462 (33.9%). With the first shover being short, I wouldn't put them on a range lower than 10% and if you look at pokerstove against that and the min-raiser's range (20%), they have 26.4% equity...
John (JWK24)

Alas, having read this four times and still not understanding the meaning of specific words and phrases I can only respond by stating what should have been obvious to me some time ago: Clearly I am not up to it and destined to forever lose at online poker.

Thanks John. I mean that. Your words were the catalyst for an epiphany of sorts and you've saved me from ever again depositing. Only wish it hadn't taken this long. I'll leave the tables to the math wizards.

Red
 
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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 02:22 AM
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Alas, having read this four times and still not understanding the meaning of specific words and phrases I can only respond by stating what should have been obvious to me some time ago: Clearly I am not up to it and destined to forever lose at online poker.

Thanks John. I mean that. Your words were the catalyst for an epiphany of sorts and you've saved me from ever again depositing. Only wish it hadn't taken this long. I'll leave the tables to the math wizards.

Red
It's definitely ok to quit a game if you are no longer having fun.
Online poker has no difference from any other game (besides the money involved).

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