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Bankroll builder - Sat Aug 03, 2013, 08:05 AM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.

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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 09:04 AM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Sat Aug 03, 2013, 05:36 PM
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Hello DeLituanica,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2013, 02:48 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner


Hello,
All players were loose ,and player USCCHXQ was bluffing a lot.

I had passed quiz before I joined bankroll builder.

P.S. sorry for my bad english.
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2013, 08:35 AM
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Hi DeLituanica,

No problem, I understand you well

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers!

flophitter
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2013, 11:04 AM
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Hi DeLituanica!

This promotion is ONLY for FULL RING cash games. Playing any other type of table once you receive your first bonus will make you INELIGIBLE for all future bonuses. Please do NOT play 6-max tables again while you are in this promotion.

With J8o from the BB, I get a limp, then a min-raise in front of me. This is a very marginal hand and is not strong enough to call a raise with, so I need to muck this preflop. Many players that are in the blinds will call raises because 'they think it's cheap since they have chips in the pot'. This actually, is a very large chip leak. When I'm out of position, I only want to be playing premium hands and I need to muck anything marginal.

If I saw the flop (which I would not), when I see that I hit top pair with a marginal kicker, I get the opp to make a 2/3 pot bet. I'm just going to call this bet. The reason for it is that this bet is enough to price out all the opps from any of their draws to beat me. If the opp had bet less, then I would need to raise, but since I still have a very marginal 1 pair hand, I do not want to raise.

The turn is an overcard and the opp makes a large bet. I need to muck to this. While I do have a pair, it's not a very good one and I can easily be beaten. I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I'm ahead, not when I can very easily be behind.

The key with this hand is to muck marginal hands preflop, especially when out of position.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sun Aug 04, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2013, 10:19 AM
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I know i played very bad here, I don't know why I played this stupid. Maybe Its because I played my first real cash game ever.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2013, 10:21 AM
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only 0.20$ is left in my bankroll
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2013, 10:51 AM
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reasons to make big bets

1. To make a value bet with good hand
2. To make a bluff whit strong draws
2. To put pressure on opponent


I also passed cash game quiz.


So thats it , I have finished all three tasks and waiting for further instructions. I also have one question, now that I have 0.20$ in my bankroll left can I play ,,sit and go,, or micro tournaments , because min buy-in at 0.01/0.02$ tables is 0.80$? Thank for your time.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2013, 02:14 PM
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Hi DeLituanica,

Thanks for posting this hand, one of the Hand Analysers will take a look at it for you. Just hold on to your remaining bankroll and we'll top you up shortly. The Bankroll Builder cash is only for the specified games, but once you complete all the steps you will be free

Cheers!

flophitter
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2013, 05:03 PM
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Hi DeLituanica! I'll analyse the hand in post #8.

I have no idea what you're doing in this hand. You have 43s in fairly early position, and you should be folding pre-flop, because this hand is trash. It's especially bad to play this hand when you are short-stacked, because suited connectors require deep stacks in order that you have good implied odds to chase straights and flushes. With a short stack, you should only play "top pair hands", like TT+, AT+, QJ+.
As played, you limp and the blinds see a flop with you. On T86, you have nothing at all, just 4-high and a backdoor flush draw. When it's checked to you, checking behind is probably best, but trying a bluff has some merit, as you have no other way of winning the pot. You bet 4c into 6c, which is fine, and the small blind check-raises. He's telling you he hit this flop. Since you have no pair, no draw, you should fold to this raise. Instead, you made a crazy play, shoving all in. When a villain raises the flop, he's not going to be folding very often. Villain calls here with a gutshot and flush draw, but he's already ahead of you with 9-high. He makes a pair on the turn and you're drawing dead.
You basically threw your money away on this hand. It's frustrating when you've only got a short-stack, but you have to remain patient and disciplined. Don't put all your money in the middle with a crazy bluff, because it sinmply won't work very often, so you'll be going bust over and over if you keep doing it. Try and make a big hand before getting your chips in.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty


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Tue Aug 06, 2013, 05:21 AM
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Thank you for hand analysis.

As I posted yesterday, I have completed all 3 tasks, should I do anything else to receive my secound bonus?

Thank you for your time and help.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2013, 08:41 AM
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Hello DeLituanica,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

flophitter
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2013, 10:53 AM
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Ahh... I almost made it to 10vpp, I managed to earned 9.14vpp's but I gues it doesn`t count ...
I will soon going to post few hands where I lost my bankroll.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2013, 11:41 AM
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First of all Im going to tell you how it went. I had a lot of up's and down's. My bankroll were jumping to almost 4$ then bellow 2$ and again almost 4$ then again bellow 1$. This happend a lot ,I think this happend because I couldn't stay focused on my strategy after I win a nice pot,I'm starting to do crazy things like bad bluffs and so on, but when I loose I'm getting back to my tight-aggresive strategy and it's a winning strategy at micro stakes.I had a lot of hands with where I won a lot ,and I lost a lot but I'm going to put only my last hand where I lost my bankroll completely.I'm sorry i can't show my hand threw hand relpayer because I'm using my android phone and i don't have access to computer so I can only put my hand like this,sorry.



PokerStars Hand #102477693334: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2013/08/08 10:34:31 ET Table 'Mathesis' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: dombi89 ($1.79 in chips) Seat 2: PanLukaszek ($5.64 in chips) Seat 3: JuanMatus8 ($0.55 in chips) Seat 5: AkilaN222 ($2.24 in chips) Seat 6: Dukov Maksim ($0.61 in chips) Seat 7: DeLituanica ($0.85 in chips) Seat 8: aggrussian ($5 in chips) Seat 9: Norb1988 ($0.19 in chips) PanLukaszek: posts small blind $0.01 JuanMatus8: posts big blind $0.02 rocketf1: sits out *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to DeLituanica [Qd Qc] AkilaN222: folds Dukov Maksim: folds DeLituanica: calls $0.02 aggrussian: folds Norb1988: folds dombi89: calls $0.02 PanLukaszek: calls $0.01 JuanMatus8: checks *** FLOP *** [8d 3d Kh] PanLukaszek: bets $0.07 JuanMatus8: folds DeLituanica: calls $0.07 dombi89: folds *** TURN *** [8d 3d Kh] [4h] PanLukaszek: bets $0.06 DeLituanica: calls $0.06 *** RIVER *** [8d 3d Kh 4h] [6d] PanLukaszek: bets $0.18 DeLituanica: raises $0.52 to $0.70 and is all-in PanLukaszek: calls $0.52 *** SHOW DOWN *** DeLituanica: shows [Qd Qc] (a pair of Queens) PanLukaszek: shows [Ad 5d] (a flush, Ace high) PanLukaszek collected $1.68 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $1.74 | Rake $0.06 Board [8d 3d Kh 4h 6d] Seat 1: dombi89 (button) folded on the Flop Seat 2: PanLukaszek (small blind) showed [Ad 5d] and won ($1.68) with a flush, Ace high Seat 3: JuanMatus8 (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: AkilaN222 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: Dukov Maksim folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: DeLituanica showed [Qd Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 8: aggrussian folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Norb1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner


I know i played this hand badly but I thought this guy was bluffing because I had played at this table more than hour and I saw him in simular situations bluffing all the way and folding at river.

And again sorry for my terrible english, I hope you understood what I tried to say.

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Thu Aug 08, 2013, 06:32 PM
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Hi DeLituanica

I'll see if the hand analysers can do your hand like this, if so it'll be posted here within 24 hours.

flophitter
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2013, 07:08 PM
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Hi DeLituanica! Let's have a look at the hand in post #16.

Your problem with this hand starts with pre-flop. You have QQ, which is the third best starting hand, so why are you limping in?
If a hand is good enough to play, it's good enough to raise. You want to put all the villains to a decision, and get value when you probably have the best hand. Open-limping (calling the blind) is a weak play, because it gives opponents a very cheap price to see if they can hit the flop. The big blind can even check his option and see a flop for free, and you don't want that, because the flop will often bring overcards to your pair. If villains have weak or speculative hands (like 44, 76s, A5s) then you want to charge them for trying to beat your hand. You should make a standard raise to 3bb (6c), which will mean:
* You often win the blinds (which adds 3c to your stack without you even showing your hand).
* It's more likely you'll get heads up (it's easier to beat one opponent than several).
* You can make a good fold if someone re-raises, because they can only 3-bet with a super-strong hand like QQ+/AK.
* You can follow up your pre-flop raise with a continuation bet on the flop, which is likely to take it down even if you missed.

As played, you limp, as does the button and SB. The BB checks his option, so you're 4-handed on the flop. This is a disaster for QQ, as many flops will contain an ace or king, like this one. It's very likely that one of the 3 villains has a king, so when a villain makes a pot-sized bet on the flop, you could just fold, having lost the minimum. Even if he's betting with the nut flush draw, you're in bad shape, because any ace or diamond will give him a better hand than yours. Against Kx, however, you're crushed, as you have just two outs. You call, and see a blank looking 4h on the turn. Here, villain makes a very small bet. This looks like genuine weakness, so if your read is that villain has been bluffing often, then going with your hand is probably right. A small raise could be good for charging flush and straight draws, but calling is OK, as you could get more value from bluffs on the river. The river that comes is terrible, because it completes the most obvious draw; the flush gets there. When villain bets half pot, he could be bluffing with total air, but a flush is definitely possible. I think your all in shove is a big mistake. Before making a raise, always ask yourself "Can I get called by worse?" If villain is bluffing, he won't call, so there's no point in raising. You should just call to see if you're good. Villain snap-calls your raise here, because he has the nuts.
There's an old saying in poker: "Don't go broke in a limped pot". That applies here. Since you didn't raise pre-flop, it's harder to put someone on a hand, and all kinds of random hands could be out there. It's possible that villain would have played the hand the same way if you'd raised pre-flop, but I'd definitely recommend you seize the initiative next time. In this hand, villain controlled all the betting. He set a cheap price to hit his draw, and then you paid him off. Don't let that happen next time. Be the one driving the action, so that villain will be less likely to bluff.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Fri Aug 09, 2013, 04:11 AM
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Am I able to receive 3rd bonus? Or I'm not eligible for it?
 
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Fri Aug 09, 2013, 09:26 AM
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Hi DeLituanica,

Your third Bankroll Builder bonus has been processed and it will be in your account soon!

Now to earn your fourth and final bonus, keep applying the principles you have learned at the same tables as before until you have earned a further 10 VPPs, counting from when you receive this latest bonus.

If you lose your bankroll, please post the losing hand(s) for analysis. As ever, if you have any questions we are here for you.



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