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Bankroll Builder - Tue Aug 06, 2013, 05:02 AM
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I'm interested in joining the Bankroll Builder promotion.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2013, 09:11 AM
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I'm interested in joining the Bankroll Builder promotion.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 05:04 AM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 06:18 AM
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Can my play here be justified? I had a made straight on the turn, but suspected it might not be the best, but I still had a decent flush draw.

 
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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 06:31 AM
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I've also passed the quiz.
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Hi Bwfr!

With T9 from the SB, I get 3 limps, then a standard raise and a call of the raise. This hand is nowhere near strong enough to call a raise with, especially out of position, so I need to immediately muck it. If everyone had limped, then I'd complete and see a flop, but I cannot call a raise. To call a raise preflop from the SB, I need to have AK or a premium pocket pair. I need to muck anything marginal.

If I saw the flop (which I would NOT), when I see that I flop a gutshot draw, I need to check and hope to see a free turn card. If anyone bets, then I need to fold.

The turn gives me the bottom end of a straight, but this is a very scary board as I can be beat by a larger straight or a flush. I'm going to make a value bet here and the key is the sizing of it. Bets post-flop need to be sized based on the pot size, number of opps and board texture. With 4 opps in the hand, I need to make a pot-sized bet of 64. I want to keep all of my bets standard, as that helps to keep the opps guessing as to the strength of my hand. Players that bet more with better hands and less with marginal hands are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opponent.. something I always want to avoid.

I then get a call, raise and shove to my turn bet. While I do have a straight, I still need to muck here as there are too many hands out there that could have me beat. I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I know I'm ahead, not when I can very easily be behind.

The key with this hand is to muck marginal hands preflop when out of position, especially when an opp raises.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Thu Aug 08, 2013, 06:48 AM
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I've also passed the quiz.
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 07:04 AM
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I've watched the video, and three reasons for a player to make a big bet are
- To grow the pot when holding a strong hand
- To protect a made hand against a strong draw
- To put pressure on the opponents

I'm putting this loss down to bad luck, but should I have bet more post-flop? I doubt it would have helped - he was determined to stay in for his draw.



I've passed the cash game quiz.

Last edited by Bwfr; Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 10:05 AM.. Reason: Missed a word
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 07:36 PM
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Hi Bwfr! I'll analyse the hand in post #9.

You ultimately got very unlucky in this hand, but your bet-sizing needs a little work. You have JJ, but there's a lot of action in front of you: a minraise and two calls. I would sometimes just call here. Although JJ does not do very well in multiway pots, because the flop will contain overcards the majority of the time, you have a bargain price to go set-mining. If you don't hit a set, or flop an overpair, you can fold on the flop, having only invested 2bb. The problem with raising is that you'll usually get at least one caller when so many have already shown they like their hands, so then you'd be playing a bloated pot and still have tricky decisions when the flop is no good. A further problem with raising is that if you make it large enough to discourage callers, you'll only get called by better hands (QQ+) or hands than can outflop you (AQ/AK). If you do raise, then the size needs to be larger. A standard size for a re-raise is three times the current bet, but you should add extra multiples for cold callers. So with a raise to 4c and two callers, a good size would be (3 + 2) * 4c = 20c. Anything less gives villains too cheap a price, based on pot odds. A further problem is your starting stack size. You're very short, on just 35c. Any raise you make will be over a third of your stack. This will mean you are pot-committed and cannot fold on the flop, even if it's bad for your hand. Since a standard raise will make you pot-committed, the best size is to shove all in. This size will often mean you collect all the money in the pot uncontested, or at least get you heads up, hopefully in a race against AK.
As played, you made it 12c and it gets re-raised by another short-stack. I would definitely go all in now. Calling makes no sense, because the pot will be much larger than the money you have behind. As you can see, the pot is 58c and you have 18c. You made a set, so should be happy to get all in. Betting 8c serves no purpose. Just ship it. Somewhat brutally, villain flopped the nuts with T9 and you couldn't improve to a full house. I think if you'd shoved all in pre-flop at the first opportunity, that hand wouldn't be in the pot, so you'd be doubling up against AJ. By pricing T9 in to call with your small pre-flop raise, villain wasn't making a big mistake. Try to be more aware of stack sizes and the size of the pot in future. If you're committed to the hand and the pot is already close to your stack size, then go all in. For more on commitment decisions, see TheLangolier's archived training video.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Last edited by ArtySmokesPS; Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 07:39 PM..
 
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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:24 AM
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Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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