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QQ against 3bet - Wed Aug 07, 2013, 07:26 AM
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Hello,
V3 is call station with VP70 ,that's why I raised to 5bb's, I was sure he would call it with hole of his hand range V9 3 bet but it's too small and I thought that's there's no KK+. just thought that he might provoke me to 4bet or it's just to take initiative and cbet on a flop with weak hands. I cant range V3, but V9's hand range is something like 99+,AQs or 88+ AJs. I did 4bet as I didn't want to play hand in a 3 way pot without initiative. I decided to c/f any flop, any turn with K or A. on the flop he shoved first in so I removed all sets from his hand range, it was so clear that he would shove on any flop . My 4bet size is small I think but other way it would be too big. and I didn't pay attention to V3's call there, he might call there even with JT. Did I play it wrong ? what would you suggest to play it?
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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 11:33 AM
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Preflop is fine. Any stats/reads on villains?

I'm only worried about V9's shove. V3 is an easy call off.

I'd probably level myself into calling given the odds we are getting, but i wouldn't be happy about it. Given the action of V9, we can assume he's a bad player, so i'd include a spew factor in calling.
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 12:58 PM
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This can go either way I feel, and I'm usually inclined to call more at micros than to fold especially in big pots like these. The potential mistake you can be making by laying down a big hand like that is too huge.

Villain 9's line looks quite strong and he probably isn't bluffing into the 2 of you. I would make this heavily dependant on how good/tight/loose/aggro I perceive villain 9. In case he might be a recreational player or a weaker regular I think you can call here. If he's extremely tight and it's likely he wants to trap pre to drag the weaker villain 3 along you could fold - but in that case the 4bet pre is probably likely to be not optimal (as you would be pinpointing him to KK/AA).


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Wed Aug 07, 2013, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
This can go either way I feel, and I'm usually inclined to call more at micros than to fold especially in big pots like these. The potential mistake you can be making by laying down a big hand like that is too huge.

Villain 9's line looks quite strong and he probably isn't bluffing into the 2 of you. I would make this heavily dependant on how good/tight/loose/aggro I perceive villain 9. In case he might be a recreational player or a weaker regular I think you can call here. If he's extremely tight and it's likely he wants to trap pre to drag the weaker villain 3 along you could fold - but in that case the 4bet pre is probably likely to be not optimal (as you would be pinpointing him to KK/AA).
Thanks a lot
they where week players , V9 shoved AJo : V3 22
 

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