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Bankroll Builder - ludisrbi - Fri Aug 09, 2013, 03:58 PM
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Hello im new to PSO and online poker in general. I know some basic fundamentals about poker but would really like to take the bankroll builder promotion course and improve my knowledge.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:04 AM
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Hello im new to PSO and online poker in general. I know some basic fundamentals about poker but would really like to take the bankroll builder promotion course and improve my knowledge.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Hello ludisrbi,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:43 PM
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i aced the quiz with 100%, here is a hand that i played, id like to know if i was right in raising all in, in this situation
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:16 PM
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Hi ludisrbi,

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers!

flophitter
 
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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:29 PM
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Hi ludisrbi,

Are you sure it was the Poker Basic quiz you passed? We don't see your pass in our system here. If you're not sure, please take it again and let me know.

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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:34 PM
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im pretty sure it was the basic poker quiz, the only option i get now is the poker assessment
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:20 AM
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im pretty sure it was the basic poker quiz, the only option i get now is the poker assessment
Hey there,

Here's a link to the quiz that you need to pass to get your 1st bonus

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...ssessment-Quiz

Let us know as soon as you have passed it.

Cheers,

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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:29 AM
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i aced the quiz with 100%, here is a hand that i played, id like to know if i was right in raising all in, in this situation
Hi ludisrbi!

This is an interesting spot. You will need to win the hand about 1 in 3 tries in order for moving all in here to be profitable. In order to estimate our chances of winning we need to put the two villain's on a range of hands. Now, since this is play money, I assigned them random hands (any two cards) and against this range you will win nearly 50% of the time. Therefore, in this spot, moving all in should be profitable.

Note however, that this is play money. We can expect some really crazy play here. If this were real money then we would have to tighten the ranges of the players, especially the btn who willingly called the all in raise. At a real money table it becomes quite questionable if we are ahead. I would suggest folding and waitng for a better spot. The btn will typically show up with a pocket pair or AQs or AK. Against this range we won't win often enough to make calling profitable.

Now, since calling the all in raise consumes most of your stack, reraising all in as you did is much better than just calling. Well done.

Finally, I notice that 3 seats are open at your table. I highly recommend that you stick to full ring tables where all 9 seats are actually filled in the future. It creates a better learning environment and will allow you to more easily play profitably.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:53 AM
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Hello, i have passed the Poker Assessment quiz,
also thanks for the hand analysis, that was pretty much my thought process at the time, if the hand was played on a real money table i would have probally fold the hand unless i have analyzied that the villains were loose enough to go all-in with cards wekear than mine, also a little luck (1 A on flop and river) never hurt anyone :P
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2013, 07:50 AM
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just confirming again that i passed the poker assessmenet test
 
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Tue Aug 13, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 09:07 AM
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3 reasons to big bet:

- To value bet and build pot for my Nut/Monster hand
- To protect my hand against strong draws
- To bluff a villain out of his better hand

posting the hands in the next post --->
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 09:11 AM
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i have 2 hands to post if its not a problem, both are the same hole cards (K,K) and are actually 2 continuous hands i played last night, the first hand won and the other lost, im sure i played pretty decent but i think my game is a little bit too agressive at the moment, i think i should all-in less and instead just big bet



thats it for now i will update when i finish the course and pass the quiz
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 11:23 AM
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I have passed the NL cash game quiz

EDIT: also forgot to mentioned that i watched the bet sizing video :P

Last edited by ludisrbi; Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 11:26 AM..
 
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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 03:06 PM
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Hi ludisrbi,

Thank you for posting these hands for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at them for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will award you with your 2nd bonus and we can advance to the next step.

Cheers!

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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:46 PM
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Hi ludisrbi! I'll analyse the hands in post #14.

1. With 2 kings faced by 2 limpers, raising for value is correct, and your sizing is pretty good. I'd sometimes just go with 5bb (3bb + 1bb per limper is standard) but adding on an extra bb because you're out of position can help too, as you'd like to get heads up, as playing OOP in a multiway pot can be difficult. As played, you're heads up against the button with a flop of Q53. You make a nice continuation bet of 25c into 29c, and villain ships his short-stack over the top. It's possible he has a set of 5s or 3s, as it's common to see players limp in with small pairs, but I'm always stacking off a big overpair here, especially against a short-stack, because he'll get his money in with one pair. I'd expect to see Qx more often than not. Villain's play with just a 5 is terrible, frankly, and you made a nice profit from his big mistake.

2. You have KK again, but the situation is quite different this time. A villain raises, and you make a good 3x re-raise in position. When villain calls this re-raise, he's likely to have a strong hand, usually in the range QQ-TT/AK/AQs, because it's a big mistake to call 3-bets out of position with anything weaker. The flop comes A83. When villain checks here (which is standard, given that you were the last raiser on the previous street), the best play is to check behind. The reason is that it's pretty much impossible to get called by worse if you bet. If you check behind, then villain will think hands like JJ and QQ are good, so they are more likely to pay you off. When you bet the ace-high flop, those worse hands will fold, and you will only get called by better hands, namely AK and AQ. That's what happens here, except it's worse than that. You overbet the pot, which makes no sense at all, and villain shoved all in. He's never doing this with worse than a pair of kings. He's not bluffing after you've overbet the pot! He has AQ+ almost always. You can't call this raise.
If you'd checked behind on the flop, then you could have saved a lot of money. Villain would probably lead the turn. You might call one bet and fold to a follow up bet on the river, or you might just fold on the turn. Either way, you cannot possibly go all in with less than top pair on the flop. It's burning money. Just remember that KK is a monster hand pre-flop, but if the board contains an ace and villain's play indicates he hit it, you have to fold, as you have second pair. You wouldn't go all in with 8x on A83, so don't go all in with KK on the same board. 8x and KK are worth about the same there. They both lose to any ace.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:54 PM
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thanks il take your advice and use it in my future plays
 
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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:16 AM
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bumping up so its visible
 
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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 09:34 AM
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Hello ludisrbi,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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