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Did I take too long to shove my Aces - Sat Aug 10, 2013, 09:56 PM
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I was having a good session till hand # 378....



Did I take too long to shove
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:56 PM
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Is this a trick question? LOL

It's all-in pre,how much sooner do you think you could have shoved?

You built the heat and commitment up fine I think,bottom line this player was never folding his Kings here. Truth be told in 2NL without having a gold-plated NIT read over many hands with a villain I seriously doubt I could ever find my fold button pre-flop with KK. Not given the level of play one typically sees at 2NL.

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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:01 AM
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Hi rayzor,

I agree, I don't understand the nature of the question.

Open and 4b sizing are good imo. When villain click-back 5 bets I think that both shoving and 6-betting small are valid options. If we had reads and the villain is a wild spewer, then I prefer a small 6b to about 1.49, which gives him plenty of room to shove light spews. Failing any such read that indicates a 5-bet click back might be light, I would assume it's super strong (QQ+/AK) and just jam to get those all in pre while we cooler them all.

If you're in some way trying to ask how you could have avoided losing this hand, the answer is hopefully clear that you can not, you should lose this hand every single time he lucks into the winner. Which will happen about 18.75% of the time. So 81 times out of 100 you stack him up here. The other 19 something like this happens. We can't win them all, but nh, wp imo.


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Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:16 AM
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To put it succinctly: Greats decisions. Next hand please.
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 07:13 PM
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe , I thought i should slowplay, then decided against it, and this happens. I know I can't win em all, but it still hurts to get AA cracked.

 
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Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. rayzor View Post
Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe , I thought i should slowplay, then decided against it, and this happens. I know I can't win em all, but it still hurts to get AA cracked.


Never.

This villain was showing their clear intention to commit their stack pre-flop here and you can't possibly be behind.If they want to dance for stacks pre-flop when you have AA get your butt on the floor.

And yeah,getting Aces cracked always stings,but it stings a lot more if you play them badly and have yourself to blame,whether it's partly or wholly,for the loss. That was NOT the case here,you did all you could to do to stack this player but fate is a cruel mistress sometimes.
 

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