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Is this draw strong enough? - Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:05 AM
PMBG73PA's Avatar
Since: Jul 2011
Posts: 47
1st hand out. Should I have folded pre, getting almost 6:1? Do I have enough equity to shove? I put him on either A8, a good diamond draw (like KdQd) or maybe an overpair (which he had, although I thought overpairs raise more preflop). Don't think he folds any of these, so no fold equity.
Oh, and a major problem: Poker Stove seems to be gone, and I could not find any other equity calculator either. Please help!


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Button (t500)
SB (t500)
Hero (BB) (t500)
UTG (t500)
MP (t500)
CO (t500)

Hero's M: 11.90

Preflop: Hero is BB with ,
UTG raises to t40, 3 folds, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t132) , , (3 players)
SB bets t100, Hero raises to t458 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls t358 (All-In)

Turn: (t1,048) (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t1,048) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t1,048

Results below:
SB had , (flush, ten high).
Hero had , (two pair, nines and sevens).
Outcome: SB won t1,048
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:59 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,479
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Hi Olaf,

"(which he had, although I thought overpairs raise more preflop)" The problem is this is not the preflop raiser you're shoving on, it's a preflop caller just like you (and he chose not to raise at all with TT!). Because he's a caller I would rate this board texture to hit him harder than it would a preflop raiser, so your ranging is off. He can have 2 pairs, sets, 89, combo draws etc.

That said, it looks like this is a hyper turbo? With such shallow stacks if I did call preflop I would go with this strong a connection to the flop, but I really don't like it. The real problem is the preflop call imo, with starting stacks of 25bbs we really don't have this kind of room to speculate, and 97s derives a lot of it's preflop value from post flop implied odds and fold equity... both of which are in very short order on this depth of money.

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