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[CL] Bankroll Builder | | | | - Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:25 PM
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new to poker stars and wondering if i am eligible for the bankroll
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Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:32 PM
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new to poker stars and wondering if i am eligible for the bankroll
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Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:53 PM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!



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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:26 AM
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2 hands i wouldnt mind you looking at



how could i have changed my bet sizing on the river to get more value



same question but in regards to the turn
 
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abnkroll builder step 1 - Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:56 AM
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i have also completed the poker basics training course
 
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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:41 PM
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Hi,

Hand Analysis


In a multi way limp pot it's plausible that one of the villains does indeed have a range of Ax. Now post flop is a different story in terms of their bet sizing, their range is weak in my opinion. I can see why you check raised as a bluff it looks SO STRONG doing this into multiple players being at a positional disadvantage in the small blind, but the thing here is we do not have any blockers or equity to the diamonds, 1 card flush combos are going to be a big portion of the villains range here and unlikely Ax, we could possibly get them to fold a nine on future streets.

Now that we have highlighted a thought process here, let's talk about stack depth, playing this inflated pot out of position on a 20bb stack depth will put us in awkward position when we get called..you could check the turn and bomb the river (go all in) and maybe get an ace to fold or a hero call from nine..but the thing here is it's hard to get value from worse Kx taking our kicker card into account. Without any reads I'd consider just checking all streets and saving bets for a better value spot. I think you played the hand fine (from a heads up poker point of view), but it's certainly not a line that I'd advocate doing at full ring 9max as relative hand strength to board texture is usually weighted towards strong holdings.


Hand Analysis


On the turn we have a decent stack depth, the ideal sizing on this depth (in my opinion) is 1/2 pot, you played it fine! But looking at this board texture it's SO DRY and it's hard for a second nut or for the villain to have any decent made hand here..I'd like to think their range on this flop and turn will consist of high card more often than pairs..if we want to get value from those holdings I'd make a sizing of a little bit less than 1/2 pot just to induce a light/marginal call down...the stack to pot ratio is set up for a river jam and the villain will have proper pot odds to make light hero calls! Well played!


Hope this helps.


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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:49 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:02 PM
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thanks for the feedback. Just to say i wouldn't even bother playing king six if it was real money, but i find that a lot of the time everyone on play money tables play every hand, so i thought i would limp and see a flop. Even when i missed the flop when everyone checked to the button and he makes such a tiny bet i felt i could get away with raising and probably get everyone to fold. in hindsight i probably should have raised bigger on the flop since the initial intention was to get everyone to fold to me, due to how wet the board was, and thinking on play money if they had anything they tend to bet huge.
 
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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:34 AM
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really frustrated, got the bonus up to nearly 4 dollars, and then in only an hour lost nearly all of it. this is the hand were it went wrong and it was just a really stupid move on the river knowing that it was behind went all in to try and bluff him off the hand, and it was called after he flopped a set

 
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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 08:15 PM
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Hi,


Hand Analysis


Usually a limping range is perceived as a weak range of holdings, although that is not always the case. I like the pre-flop raise sizing, but did you have any specific reads on that villain?

Post flop the continuation bet is standard although when called I'd just take a pot control line of check call on the turn (maybe the river too) to keep all bluffs in the villains range barreling at the pot. I wouldn't be to concerned about the flush as those combos will be part of a small portion of their overall range on this board texture.

River, we could have maybe found a fold in this spot, taking board texture into consideration and if we had reads of the villains tendencies in previously played hands coupled with if the villain has ever been aggressive. Unfortunate spot to have them set mine with the lower pair.


Hope this helps.



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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 08:19 PM
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So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
[x] COMPLETE

2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
[ ] INCOMPLETE

3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz. >>click here<<
[ ] INCOMPLETE

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 07:13 AM
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the reason someone would bet big is;

1) to put pressure on an opponent
2) to bluff an opponent of decent hands
3) to gain value from really strong hands

i have also study the cash game course and completed the cash game test getting 86%.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 12:10 AM
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Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.



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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:35 AM
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possibly my favourite hand ever, however do you think i was right checking on the river, thinking that he would bet again having a flush.
 
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frequent player point and vip player points - Fri Aug 23, 2013, 09:33 AM
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whats the difference between fpp's and vpp's, and if you use an fpp for a tournament, do you lose the vpp as well or just the fpp.
 
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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:38 PM
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possibly my favourite hand ever, however do you think i was right checking on the river, thinking that he would bet again having a flush.
Hi,

Hand Analysis

I agree with checking to the villain on the river, flush combos are going to make up a decent percentage of this villains overall range more so than top pair Tx (bluffing) etc.. So opening up their thin value bet range on this river is okay.. Although I may have led out and bet 1/2 pot to extract value from those holdings and it may even induce a raise over the top of us if they do indeed have a flush..to which we would be fist pump re-raising them.

Some times I flat call out of the big blind with premium holdings as it really disguises the strength of our hand and I'll generally only do this with some history versus the villain, but as a good rule of thumb (unless we had reads villain folds often to re-steals) I'd re-pop the action to 15c to 18c that way a decent sized pot is built for post flop play, it's not often we get a premium hand so each time we get one let's get maximum value on all streets.


Very nice hand! It's so rare to get quad Aces!


Take a look at this thread! A collection of awesome hands from PSO members!

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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:44 PM
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whats the difference between fpp's and vpp's, and if you use an fpp for a tournament, do you lose the vpp as well or just the fpp.
Hi,

VPPs determine your VIP level on a monthly or yearly basis. Monthly VPPs reset on the first day of each calendar month. Yearly VPPs reset on January 1st of every year. VPPs are used as a monthly and yearly counter of your play and are not redeemable.


FPPs have value and can be redeemed by entering tournaments, purchasing items from the VIP Store, or exchanging to cash. Each time you earn one VPP you will also earn one or more FPPs based on your VIP level.

>>click here<< for more information about the PokerStars VIP Program - Earn!

When you spend FPPs, your overall VPP count will stay the same and nothing will be deducted.


Hope this helps.


CannonLee



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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:47 PM
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There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target

2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.



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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 08:11 AM
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thanks for all the feedback, great help, do you mind me asking what vip level you are.
 
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next instalement - Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Ive done the 10 vpps, got over 16 in total.
 

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