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NL5 JcQc four a kind flop slow play - Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:24 PM
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Here is a hand that i recently played, i think my standard raise pre-flop was bad from this position with JcQc, but to my luck 3 queens showed up on the flop, now do you think i was right to slow play this hand, since i knew the villains didn't have anything, or should have i played more aggressively ?
 
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Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:11 PM
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Many players will disagree with me here, but this is a spot where I always bet the flop. You have quads and can only lose to a runnner-runner straight flush, but I would bet out for value, primarily because villains will never give you credit for four of a kind. Since you were the pre-flop raiser, you are expected to make a continuation bet. You can also get called by worse, especially as it's multiway. Anyone holding a pocket pair flopped a full house, and Zeebo theorem states that "no one folds a boat, whatever bet size you choose". If you bet the flop and get called, you can then check the turn. This line will look like you were making a standard c-bet (with AK, for example) and then gave up when you got called. A villain in position will likely bet the turn, and you can call. On the river, I would often lead for a huge overbet, as this will look like a bluff, and will get called by hands like 99 and anything that made a boat (7x and 8x on this board). Since you seldom flop such a big hand, you should try and get paid the maximum when you do. Slowplaying to allow villains to "catch up" misses a whole street of value.
On the few occasions that I've flopped quads and fast-played, I've won a stack from a full house every single time. I therefore think you missed a lot of value by checking the flop and betting so small on the turn.

Hope this helps!

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Arty


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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:09 AM
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thanks for the feedbeck
 

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