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bankroll builder - Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:31 PM
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I want to participate to build my bankroll.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:46 PM
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I want to participate to build my bankroll.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:50 AM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

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Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

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hand replayer - Sat Aug 24, 2013, 07:50 AM
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did i play this hand smartly?
i figured since he was betting the same amount, regardless of the flop, that he wa bluffing.
so i tried to represent the queen or a pocket pair by smooth-calling on the flop and than re-raising on the turn.

plus i've watched the video and finished the quiz.
tnx!
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 09:05 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:24 AM
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Hi Reachdown21!

The first thing that I see with this hand is even before it starts. When sitting down at a ring table, I always want to wait for the BB to start playing. Paying extra blinds will be a huge drain to a player's bankroll.

With ace/rag (A3) here, I'd like to immediately muck this, as it's not a good hand, but due to the post, I will check and hope to see a free flop. Just because I have an ace or suited cards does not mean that the hand is playable.

When an opp raises and is called by another player, I absolutely need to muck to this raise, as my hand is nowhere near strong enough to call a raise.

If I saw the flop (which I would not), when I see it totally misses me and the opp bets, I either need to make a standard raise or fold. A standard raise with two opps is a 2/3 pot raise (1533). However, this bet would pot-commit me as it's more than 1/3 of my remaining chips. Since I'd be pot-committed, I would either need to shove or fold and I do not want to shove as a bluff here against multiple opponents. The best decision if I saw the flop is to fold.

Calling the abnormally small bet (with 3 opps in the hand when they bet, a standard bet would be 3/4 pot) is NOT representing a Q, as a Q would need to bet enough to price out any of the opponent's draws. Calling this, then making a large bet on the turn, just doesn't look right for any hand (except a bluff). The 8 only helps pocket 8's and that hand should have folded to the flop bet. A pocket pair would have initially raised preflop. When something doesn't look right... it's normally a bluff.
If I were the opp in this hand and saw that line, I'm calling with any 7, 8, Q or pair... anything that can beat a bluff.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:40 PM
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ok thanks.
now what?
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:22 PM
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ok thanks.
now what?
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

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Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

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So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 04:25 PM
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3 reasons why players may want to make big bets:

1) To gain value from very strong hands (flop a monster and want to get a big pot)

2) To protect against strong draws if it's a wet board (making a small bet would mean villain is more likely to hang around in the pot)

3)To put pressure on opponents (you are holding or want to represent a big hand and willing to put up a big bet to show that).
 
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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 05:00 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 07:58 PM
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Hi Reachdown21! I'll analyse the hand in post #9.

With K3o, you have a junk hand, but you're in the big blind facing a limp by the SB, so you can check your option and see a free flop. The flop comes T72, so you just have an overcard. When the SB checks, he's usually missed, but he might have a flush or straight draw. You could check back and see if you can improve for free, but betting is OK, as villain will fold sometimes, and that wouldn't be a bad result, seeing as you just have king high. Villain calls your bet, so he either has a pair or a draw. On the turn, you make a pair of 3s, but I don't think this is strong enough to bet for value. You have some showdown value, as you're beating draws, so I'd keep the pot small by checking behind. Instead, you bet, and villain calls again. The pot is 29c, which is quite big considering the strength of your hand. The river is basically a blank, and villain doesn't bet. If he has a decent hand, like top pair, I think he'd bet out, so he probably has a missed draw here. Since your pair beats a missed draw, but nothing else, checking is correct. It's pointless making a bet for value, as no worse hands will call. The cards go on their backs and you have the best of it, as villain had a flush draw. I think you played this OK, but there was no real need to bet the turn once you'd made a pair. I tend to only build a pot if I have a stronger hand. If I have something more marginal, I'll keep the pot small, by checking in position.

Hope this helps!
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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:06 AM
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@Arty, thanks for the analysis

@Reachdown21, what's your thoughts on what Arty has said above?

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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:46 PM
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very nice analysis of the hand
i still disagree in the raise on the turn. i think the raise put more pressure on the opp and made him buy his draw hand. had i checked the turn, the opp would recognize weakness and would probably try to bluff the river, that I wouldn't call with just a pair of 3s.

i thank you for the analysis!
 
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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 03:48 PM
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plus i finished the quiz!
 
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Sun Aug 25, 2013, 05:14 PM
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plus i finished the quiz!
Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



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3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

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Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:51 AM
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do i still have to play the 0.01/0.02 cash tables
 
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Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:14 AM
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do i still have to play the 0.01/0.02 cash tables
Yes, please stay on these tables until you've got all of your Bankroll Builder bonuses

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