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Did i miss value on the river or is it too thin - Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:15 PM
I AM XXXX's Avatar
Since: Jun 2012
Posts: 30

player 5

hands = 7
vpip = 43
pfr = 14
af = 1.0

player 6

hands = 248
vpip = 21
pfr = 15
af = 1.2

Did i miss value on the river or is it too thin

cant see many worse hands calling maybe AK with a diamond

so what are they check calling 2 streets with

flush draws
str8 draws or made str8 on turn
sets that dont like the 3 to a flush
and also the slow played nut flush
they both have low AF and many not bet a set or str8 it is 2 nl after all

all missed draws will fold
all weak one pair hand should fold excet maybe ak
all better hand will call
Sun Sep 01, 2013, 05:43 AM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
I'd be inclined to bet 1/2 pot and fold to a raise OTR.

I can never see us beat here unless they rivered a straight or something.

I wouldn't be surprised if they called OTT with any pair + fd or the naked Ad.
Sun Sep 01, 2013, 06:03 AM
GamblingProp's Avatar
Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 714
I would probably bet like 1/4th of the pot on the river.
Although I believe that...
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Sun Sep 01, 2013, 10:21 AM
Prodigy237's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 336
Hi all,

I agree with birdayy & GP... however you have reasonable showdown value & are only likely to be called by better hands e.g. made flush / straights & sets, so Check OTR is right play (IMHO).

Good luck at the tables.

Cheers Tony [aka Prodigy237]

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Sun Sep 01, 2013, 12:40 PM
Profess Awe's Avatar
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,579
If I am confident that villains are not checking sets or better on the river, then I am value betting enough to get called by top pair, I don't think it is just AK (with diamond) but also KQ, KJ as well. AT may call a small bet? Villains can have KT, K9, but worth thin value if assumptions hold, say $.75.

However, if I think they may be slow playing, then too thin for me. No 2NL expert, but even with these AF stats I cant see the rare sets and more often straights checking all 3 streets.
Sun Sep 01, 2013, 05:01 PM
geoVARTA's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,306
Hi all,

It seems the majority agrees for a thin value bet, and I would go with that too.
I think I would bet both flop and turn big, close to pot or pot.

No one is ever slow playing that flop and the only hand that beats us that could x/c flop is KT. I'm not sure if we are getting called though but I'd put in like a 48% pot bet or less.
Thu Sep 05, 2013, 10:16 PM
I AM XXXX's Avatar
Since: Jun 2012
Posts: 30

I think the same as most of you i did miss value this should have been 1/2 pot bet fold

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