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2nl 6max Zoom, great or bad laydown? - Tue Sep 03, 2013, 06:09 PM
Espada_Nu.4's Avatar
Since: May 2012
Posts: 148

no reads.
i think his caling range pre is JJ, KK and perhaps AK. i would be very optimistic if i include TT
some might say that if he had KK he would raise or shove, but given the action he would probably flat(i would!)
i believe the cbet OTF is standard, and now that he calls i rule out AK. so its probably JJ or KK
is my thinking correct?
Tue Sep 03, 2013, 08:07 PM
CaRLoS_DZ87's Avatar
Since: Jul 2011
Posts: 184
Don't think you should check turn with no reads, and dont think any decent regular player would be flatting a 3bet there, so most likely a recreational player. At those stakes i think most recreational players have a wide 3bet calling range for me to put them on a set always there. Im probably betting all the way, if he slow play a set i wouldnt feel bad about it.
Tue Sep 03, 2013, 11:36 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
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Hi Espada,

The biggest problem here is you have no plan for your hand, so you're a bit lost on the turn. When you 3b this and get called, the stack to pot ratio is low (under 3), so against an unknown at 2NL I would plan to commit generally on a 984 board. With that in mind, I would be betting larger on the flop, more like .49c, which would make the pot 1.61 if called and we'd have 1.30 behind to shove the turn.

As played I would still get the money in. Our flop c-bet was really small, less than half the pot, no reason villain can't think we have AK and have missed. I would never put him on KK here not 4-betting (it's possible of course but that's the kind of thing I would need a read for). With our flop sizing looking like we missed, he could easily have TT here or have floated with AJ, JTs (if he's loose pre), just be betting 77 cause he thinks he's good, etc.

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Wed Sep 04, 2013, 05:49 AM
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Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 336
Hi Espada,

I agree with Dave & Carlos... Most Villains [regs or recr players] would be 'all in' or at the very least 4bet pre-flop with AA, KK [poss AK] as perfect spot for a squeeze play & whilst there is a chance Villain may flat with JJ... I think you have to go with your hand.

Good luck.


Last edited by Prodigy237; Wed Sep 04, 2013 at 05:51 AM..

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