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shove or call? - Mon Sep 09, 2013, 11:04 AM
DiveAllIn's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 377
villian on about 16bb me 32bb he is loose aggro opening a lot. 3betting but has folded to the 4bet shove in past.

so at this stage on FT is should this a good shove

Full Tilt Poker Game #33230309523: The Raptor (258453361), Table 139 - NL Hold'em - 15000/30000 Ante 4000 - 02:37:55 WET - 2013/09/09 [21:37:55 ET - 2013/09/08]
Seat 2: JayJay00297 (548,540)
Seat 4: GioTheJammer (505,195)
Seat 5: DiXChapoLa (950,182)
Seat 6: Sean SSS1 (1,057,687)
Seat 7: Gangrey (927,996)
Seat 8: AA__II__AA (1,140,400)
JayJay00297 antes 4,000
GioTheJammer antes 4,000
DiXChapoLa antes 4,000
Sean SSS1 antes 4,000
Gangrey antes 4,000
AA__II__AA antes 4,000
DiXChapoLa posts the small blind of 15,000
Sean SSS1 posts the big blind of 30,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sean SSS1 [8s 8d]
Gangrey folds
AA__II__AA folds
JayJay00297 has 15 seconds left to act
JayJay00297 raises to 60,000
GioTheJammer has 15 seconds left to act
GioTheJammer folds
DiXChapoLa folds
Sean SSS1 has 15 seconds left to act
Sean SSS1 raises to 1,053,687, and is all in
JayJay00297 calls 484,540, and is all in
Sean SSS1 shows [8s 8d]
Mon Sep 09, 2013, 12:33 PM
Affluenza's Avatar
Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 139
It's a little big here but as he love opening pots and 3betting etc. it seems like a fine shove. How loose was he playing?

Mon Sep 09, 2013, 01:59 PM
DiveAllIn's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 377
quite loose pretty much opening if folded to him
Mon Sep 09, 2013, 06:39 PM
ahar010's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 614
Hi Sean,

I think both flat calling and set mining as well as 3bet shoving are profitable here.

I put a 21% raising range and an 8% calling range into ICMizer on this spot and it says you'll make 80,000 chips on average jamming here.

For set mining you only need to put in 30k chips and he has a decent stack left behind. But 88 has a bit more show down value so you don't just want to take set value from this hand.

So I think I would shove as well.

Other thing to think about is your table image. If you were to set-mine and fold on majority of flops you would look like a bit of a weak passive player. 3betting here gives you a more aggressive big stack image. People won't want to try stealing from you as often and they will show up lighter when you shove next time, which is better for us in the long run.


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Mon Sep 09, 2013, 06:42 PM
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Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 377
TY both

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