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AKo on BB NL10 - Tue Sep 10, 2013, 09:42 AM
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Hello, Have not much reads on ops. Just noticed V4 is creation player.
It's easy shove OTF, isn't it? there might be sets but I might out draw them and I'm favorite to JJ-QQ and KK+ should 5bet PF. and pls , give some advice about bet sizing , I don't like it much.

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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:16 PM
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I don't know about the 4-bet preflop, it looks like villain has a very strong range there.
I think bet sizing is fine as long as you balance it and bet the same amount with a monster.
As played it's almost impossible to fold, after we bet that flop.
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:28 PM
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I don't know about the 4-bet preflop, it looks like villain has a very strong range there.
I think bet sizing is fine as long as you balance it and bet the same amount with a monster.
As played it's almost impossible to fold, after we bet that flop.
Do you suggest to fold ? because it's 6max and he's OTB , he may 3bet light there. and do you suggest not to cbet OTF ?
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:58 PM
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Yeah we can definitely cold call or sometimes fold to his 3bet.
He won't be 3betting light a lot there.
But I don't suggest not c-betting, unless you want to check-raise.

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Wed Sep 11, 2013, 09:55 AM
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Hey Shichi-77

I don`t think this is too bad of a spot to cold call, I just don`t know that our hand merits it. I think AKs would be a totally reasonable cold call here, attempting to get other players into the pot and dominate their top pair`s (w AX or KX) and flush draws.

I think four-betting is the play, but I don`t much like your size. The absolute largest I would go here is 3$. Think what size would you use for aces. Probably something like 2.70 is best here.

When we get a flop like this betting doesn`t accomplish too much. We`re going to get worse hands to fold and better hands to continue. Some of those worse hands we have in terrible shape. So sometimes when worse hands have an okay chance of winning the pot we might want to bet to fold worse out. But this isn`t the case here since a worse hand like QJdd only has four outs, AJc only has 3, etc. Now better hands aren`t really going to fold either, so I like check-calling the flop.

If this player was capable of three-betting light on hte button and then decided to take a flop in position deep stacked against you, a flop check is going to invite a ton of bluffs from the range that missed that we also dominate. So we get all those hands to put money into the pot against us with very little hope of outdrawing us.

On the other hand we can outdraw the hands that are ahead of us and we will be getting a fine price to check-call against them.

I don't think our chances of winning the pot are that great when we bet and get raised. We have to continue in the hand but villain's range gets quite tight and our equity drops as that happens.

So I would check-call flop and four-bet smaller preflop
 
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Wed Sep 11, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Hey Shichi-77

I don`t think this is too bad of a spot to cold call, I just don`t know that our hand merits it. I think AKs would be a totally reasonable cold call here, attempting to get other players into the pot and dominate their top pair`s (w AX or KX) and flush draws.

I think four-betting is the play, but I don`t much like your size. The absolute largest I would go here is 3$. Think what size would you use for aces. Probably something like 2.70 is best here.

When we get a flop like this betting doesn`t accomplish too much. We`re going to get worse hands to fold and better hands to continue. Some of those worse hands we have in terrible shape. So sometimes when worse hands have an okay chance of winning the pot we might want to bet to fold worse out. But this isn`t the case here since a worse hand like QJdd only has four outs, AJc only has 3, etc. Now better hands aren`t really going to fold either, so I like check-calling the flop.

If this player was capable of three-betting light on hte button and then decided to take a flop in position deep stacked against you, a flop check is going to invite a ton of bluffs from the range that missed that we also dominate. So we get all those hands to put money into the pot against us with very little hope of outdrawing us.

On the other hand we can outdraw the hands that are ahead of us and we will be getting a fine price to check-call against them.

I don't think our chances of winning the pot are that great when we bet and get raised. We have to continue in the hand but villain's range gets quite tight and our equity drops as that happens.

So I would check-call flop and four-bet smaller preflop
Thanks a lot I've got all I wanted to know.
P.S.
I wouldn't use another sizing for AA PF, I made mistake and asked for right sizing.

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