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Bad or unlucky? - Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:39 AM
Awwesome.one's Avatar
Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 13
Hello fellow poker players!

I have a question about a hand that I played this afternoon.
I don't know if I'm at the right adress, but here it is:


Can anyone tell me if I did the right play at the turn, should I have called? Or was my all-in correct? I probably should have bet on the flop, but because I raised preflop I was afraid they would fold instantly.

Thanks in advance!
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:21 AM
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*Moved to more appropriate forum* Fadyen

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Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:54 PM
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Pre-flop: Great...awesome hand to isolate the limper with and sizing looks good.

Flop: Very bad I'm curious as to why you decided to check? We need to be betting this flop...it's pretty wet and we can get value from worse hands/draws and keep the lead in the hand. There may be some times where it's beneficial to check behind good flops for our hand but usually that would be on dry boards that we smash and want to let our opponents catch up a bit. In this spot, however, we're just making the hand much more difficult to play on further streets by checking and there won't be too many hands that we can even get value from if our opponents catch up a bit and we risk letting them outdraw us (for example, if someone has KQo and hits a K or Q on the turn, we're still probably not getting much value from them and if they have a pocket pair we're either letting them hit their set or they're still folding anyways).

Turn: Raising the limper's donk lead = good. Given the sizing and the strength of our hand, it's an easy raise for value against the limpers donk lead. Usually this sizing is a pretty big tell of weakness but hopefully we can extract value from a worse ace or a queen...the board is crazy wet too so we can charge for draws. If the limper shoved over our raise I'd be calling it off.

Shoving over the SB's cold 3bet = questionable. We've put ourself in a tough spot here by not betting the flop. Often the toughest part of a hand will be caused by an earlier action so it's important when you're reviewing your hand histories to examine the entire hand if you feel like you're unsure of certain plays. In this spot, just from experience and bet sizing, the villain's hand really looks like a set. I know it's easy to say that after we see results but given the call pre-flop out of the SB and the fishy bet-sizing, the villain can very reasonably only have a set here. What I normally do in these spots (ie. say I did bet the flop and get raised) generally comes down to reads. Without reads, it's a tough call because the villain's stack size is super fishy so there's a good chance they could be spazzing/have a worse 2-pair so I don't think that stacking off can be called bad.

Cliffs: Bet flop, go with read after you get cold 3-bet but be very aware that sets comprise a lot of the villain's range here
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:24 PM
Awwesome.one's Avatar
Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 13
Thank you very much for replying.

It was a very bad check indeed on the flop, when I looked back at it I noticed it aswell, but atleast I won't be making that mistake ever again. It was a zoom game, so I hadn't yet played against him.
Thank you Frosty, I hope I will be playing you one day!

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