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$1.00- 90man Final Table with AQ - Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:29 AM
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Hey All,
I would like some opinions on this hand.
Do I call, fold or shove?????
With relevant stack sizes I thought this wasn't a clear cut decision. And was unsure what line to take.
with the size of his raise I don't think he has any intentions on folding.
His stats are:
VPIP 25.5 PFR 15.3 3bet 5.4 over 98 hands



Thanks Chuckkky
 
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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:52 AM
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I think I would shove, He's got less than 10bb's, his hand range is pretty wide. and I think you are ahead and you need double up.
 
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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:02 AM
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A read on whether he is 3-xing with monsters, would be helpful here.
I think readless it's a shove, and his stats also indicate that he is raising quite loosely.
It's very weird but I would probably fold and wait for a better spot.
If we had fold equity it seems standard as a shove, but villain is obviously calling any shove there.

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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:24 AM
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I think you guys are thinking of it too literally in EV.

We need to consider the ICM implication of play. Look at all the short stacks (<10bb).

The pay differences are pretty significant on the FT of a 90 man, and considering the player next to us has sb left, i'd wait for a better spot later on in the FT.

Because of this I would fold quite happily.

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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdayy View Post
I think you guys are thinking of it too literally in EV.

We need to consider the ICM implication of play. Look at all the short stacks (<10bb).

The pay differences are pretty significant on the FT of a 90 man, and considering the player next to us has sb left, i'd wait for a better spot later on in the FT.

Because of this I would fold quite happily.
+1

I think the spot itself is pretty close either way. The options are to shove or fold. I think when a shove is good it's probably not good by much. If it was a 2 x raise I'd feel a lot more inclined to shove. While I don't think shoving is massively -EV in chips it is very high variance and consequenetially -$EV. As birdayy points out we have a decent stack relative to the table we can take a less risky more +EV spot later on to win more $$ in the long run.

Andy




Quad Bracelet Winner

 
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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Thanks for all the replies.
Here is the out come of the hand.


 
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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:42 AM
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Here is the final hand I played.




Did you notice who got 2nd place (the guy with half a BB in the first post)

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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:47 AM
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And for any one interested here is the final table played out.



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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 06:00 AM
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I like how the small blind pushes you out of the 3-way pot in hand 8.

Don't like the way you played hand 27.

you were a bit lucky in hand 36

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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TweedleBeetl View Post
I like how the small blind pushes you out of the 3-way pot in hand 8.

Don't like the way you played hand 27.

you were a bit lucky in hand 36
Hand 8 Fkn funny hey
Hand 27 I agree stupid play
Hand 36 I was very lucky.


cheers tweedle
 

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