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AKo on BB NL10 - Fri Sep 20, 2013, 04:22 PM
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Hello,
V2 stats for 108 hands. Raise First In From CO 44(8/18), F3B 100(1/1), WWSF 60(6/10),WTSD 0, F aggression Factor infinite,F aggression frequency 64, T aggression Factor 3,T aggression frequency 60, hands sample is small that's why I miss a lot of stats and it's what I needed to use. What would be best line there ?

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Fri Sep 20, 2013, 05:43 PM
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Fri Sep 20, 2013, 05:58 PM
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We can check/call flop, I also think folding to his minraise is ok, but bet/calling has to be my least favorite option, since if we don't catch something on the turn we are forced to give up.
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 12:34 AM
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Hi Shichi,

Firstly I think we can consider flat calling preflop rather than 3-betting. I'm not always a big fan of bloating the pot when very deep stacked and out of position, and in this hand we are a bit deeper than normal at 152bb's deep. We don't have to always auto-3b AK remember. Sometimes it's nice to flat these spots so against villains who are ranging us they can't exclude a hand like AK when we flat in future hands. And the villain's range will be wide so he'll flop weakly quite a bit... we don't always need to hit an A or K to win post flop. When we keep the money deeper (higher stack to pot ratio) there's more room to rep boards that would be good for our preflop calling range, and by keeping all his dominated aces and kings in with a flat we can get good value post when he makes a 2nd best hand as well. 3-betting isn't bad or anything, I'd just caution against it becoming your auto-bot play (some players auto-3b AK without thinking, and not thinking in poker is generally a bad thing even if the action is "standard"). If you were to look for the occasional spot to not 3b with AK pre, HU, out of position and on deeper than normal stacks would be a nice one to include imo.

As played, I think the best line is folding to the raise personally. We might be ahead of JT that is semi-bluffing or some other hand making a move once in a while, but we're out of position, don't have good improvement potential, and can't take much more heat in the hand. By improvement potential, what I mean is on the surface it looks like we have 6 overs + back door straight potential... but which overs are good? An ace is a bad card if he's holding AQ. An ace or king are disasters when he holds 55. Running JT is pretty rare, and will put 4 to a straight on the board so we can't even get paid off on the river by sets when we get there. It's a very bad spot over all, we 3b his wide range pre and followed through, but I'd cut my losses immediately and let this go.


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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:16 AM
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Thanks for your replies.

Could you explain when is flat calling preferable with AK?
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 01:51 PM
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It's situational.

A spot like this. A spot where the villains range is already tight and 3-betting folds out the few hands we dominate in that range. A spot where a villain will assume we can never have AK if we don't 3b, opening themselves up to post flop ranging mistakes. A spot against strong hand readers occasionally, to protect our flatting range.

3-betting with AK is certainly the "standard" play and it's most often what I do, but I also believe that doing so 100% of the time is a mistake. Or maybe mistake isn't the ideal word... sub-optimal might be better. Sometimes situations arise that are reasonable to flat with AK, and when villains who are paying attention end up seeing we can have hands as strong as AK in our preflop flatting range, it makes our post flop ranges harder to narrow down and opens up more doors for us in future spots.


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