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[CL] Bankroll Builder | | | | - Sat Sep 21, 2013, 04:25 PM
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I would like to take place in the Bankroll Builder promotion.
 
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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
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Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:15 PM
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Hi,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!



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Play Money hand - Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:42 PM
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I raised to get rid of the limper, get value for my hand, and possibly steal the blinds. I got three bet from the guy to my left but in play money I cannot expect him to view my hand with strength even after my raise from early position. In turn, I wanted to get it in against what is most likely a weaker holding. I four bet because I was way to deep to simply shove and I wanted to punish the cold caller. So then we end up getting it in and I am a big favorite.
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 03:09 AM
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ready for next step
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 06:16 AM
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Hi,

Hand Analysis


I really like your thought process in this hand.


I presume you also had specific reads on this villain?

One thing I might add (although your 4bet sizing was fine, given the loose range of most play money players.. we'd want to charge them max value with the top of our range), is to make a smaller 4bet sizing, 240ish leaves the villain some space to hang them self whether they decide to call or spazz out with a worse range of Ax Kx maybe Qx?? and vesus the majority of their pockets pairs 22 to JJ we'll have some live equity..no need to worry about aces as we hold a blocker lol. Also, this sizing may fold out the cold caller in the blinds, but we certainly wouldn't mind if they decided to tag along in the pot.

Nice hand and nice pot! Am really impressed with your thought process at this stage of your training.


Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 06:18 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 01:55 PM
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First of all, I am pretty sure I played this hand badly. I did defend my blind fairly wide but I assumed it would be a four way pot and I would be getting odds to play and also I was pretty deep and could mess around a little. I checked my gutshot and planned on folding to the initial raise but I thought, after the button called, that if I hit the wheel I would be playing for stacks. I hit my hand, but I was afraid of a possible flush draw out of the two. This is where I think i made my first mistake-being afraid of the flush and not betting for value. I saw them both slow down on the turn and still just played very weakly and passively even though they both looked very weak as well. By the river I was pretty sure I had the best hand but I was confused at what the button was betting for value so I just called. I won a big pot, but to do so I put myself in a sticky situation and could have actually won more. Advice?

I'm up to 10.68 at the moment after an hour. I got hit by the deck and set over set someone.

Three reasons to bet large
1.Protect against draws.
2. Bluff people off strong holdings.
3.Gain value for your holding from weaker holdings.

Last edited by CannonLee; Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM.. Reason: condensing thread
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 02:36 PM
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back down to $4, AA v KK; JJ v 10s

down to $1

busted

Last edited by CannonLee; Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 10:28 PM.. Reason: condensing thread
 
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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Hi,

Please post the hand('s) that lost your first bonus for analysis here in your thread. When you've done that I'll evaluate the :3:5 off suit hand aswell and advise you of the next step in your training.


Kind regards,
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Sun Sep 22, 2013, 05:56 PM
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I can't find the two major hands that did it but I was up to 10.68. I made a raise with 10s was three bet pretty big. The flop came something like 526, he shipped it, I called. Down to 7.00. Next it was the same exact thing i had KK the other guy had AA. Down to 3.56. Then I went on tilt and squandered the valuable bonus by just calling down with mediocre holdings like 10 high. To be honest I would want to wait a week before my next bonus so I don't waist it on tilt. I also haven't completed the cash game quiz yet. Sorry about that. I just need a different mindset I guess. Probably my biggest weakness.
 
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Mon Sep 23, 2013, 08:52 AM
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Unfortunately we can't award you another bonus unless you post the hands where you lost your last bonus here in the thread using the hand replayer only.

This is an important step in the promotion.

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Mon Sep 23, 2013, 07:40 PM
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This is the final hand. You don't need to tell me that this is a bad hand. It's not even poker. I guess I'm having trouble adjusting from play money, where I used to go from 1k to 7M in three hours. This has been the best opportunity I have had to finally start playing and I showed it no respect. All i can say is that once I pass the cash game quiz, I'll focus on both my poker acumen and my mindset. Maybe I'll get the Mental Game of Poker book.

Passed the cash game quiz. I cannot stress how sorry I am about losing the bonus. Thank You for your help.

Last edited by CannonLee; Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM.. Reason: condensing thread
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:50 PM
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Hi,

Hand Analysis

This is a hand that I would have folded, we are not going to be flopping equity often enough for this to be a +EV call, plus we will be at a positional disadvantage post flop. The majority of the time that we do flop equity, it will marginal depending on certain board textures and villains perceived range.

I wouldn't be to concerned about the flush as two card flush combos are going to consist of a small portion of just about every players overall range. We are getting 3 to 1 pot odds on the flop and we have to discount the or other dimaonds that could give us back door equity as that could potential make a flush for one of the villains.

On the turn we made the straight, our hand is so disguised on this board texture. It would be hard for one of the villains to put you on this specific hand as generally this hand would be pitched into the muck facing an early position raise/bet + call from late position pre-flop and on the flop. I'd elect to check raise 2/3 pot on this turn for value, villain 2 has just about a pot sized bet left and there are several Ax combos that contain a stray diamond AKd AQd AdK AdX etc.. that would either be willing to play for stacks or passively call to try and get to showdown (mainly Villain6). You could have potentially won a much bigger pot, but it's fine to also take caution especially without any reads on either of the villains.


Hand Analysis

I'd understand playing this line in say for instance a heads up or short handed format especailly with history on the villains post flop tendencies from previosuly played hands, but at 9-max.. the relative hand strength on most board textures are most of the time nuttish towards top pair +...it makes for a much more straight forward game of NLHE. On the flop I like the float in position, this is a really dry board texture..it'll be hard for the villain to have any made hand here consisting of a queen...the turn really doesn't help either our range or the villains, so it's kind of hard to merge our range here..but there is merit to bet this turn as there may be dead money in the pot..most of their Ax combos may give up.. I can see what you tried to accomplish in this hand, it would have worked out at HU or short handed.. Bet fold on the turn would have saved bets and give up if we did call and the villain leads the river snap fold.


Hope this helps.


Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Last edited by CannonLee; Tue Sep 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM..
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:56 PM
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thanks so what is the next step
 
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Tue Sep 24, 2013, 10:56 PM
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Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target

2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.



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Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:01 AM
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I lost my first dollar but that was too far back in the hand history. I shipped it with the second nut straight on the flop and got called by a flush draw.
I have .13 left but it is not enough to play.

Next step?
 
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Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:51 PM
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Hi,

Hand Analysis

On this depth of money it won't hurt to defend this hand versus a plausible wide button range. Post flop, I like the check call, this is a really dry flop and the best to way to maximize our value with this hand, as it really opens up the villains range to barrel on future streets. However, on the turn, what could the villain be going all in with that we beat? Did you have any specific reads about this villains post flop tendencies from previously played hands? It appears to be an easy call as we are holding top pair, but there are many hands that have us beat..and we also beat several hands, I'm going to need really solid reads to call here, without them I'd fold.

Please only play 9-Max 0.01/0.02c NLHE as your training is focused primarily on that format.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:53 PM
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Fantastic!

Your third Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.


There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target

2) If you lose your 3rd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.



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Wed Sep 25, 2013, 11:45 PM
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need last bonus
im making tough folds with JJ preflop but i cna't seem to get anything going every hand i get in the other guy goes all in its impossible
 

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