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Bankroll Builder - Sat Sep 28, 2013, 03:21 PM
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I'm new here and i would like be a part of this!
 
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Sat Sep 28, 2013, 04:52 PM
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I'm new here and i would like be a part of this!
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Sun Sep 29, 2013, 07:53 AM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:47 PM
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I'm having trouble with my hand replayer! I did everything the same as in this video and it won't work. I copyed my last hand and went to hand replayer and pasted last hand there, then clicked on read data and nothing happened. Now i'm not sure if I did something wrong or is it some mistake in system?
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2013, 10:14 AM
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I'm having trouble with my hand replayer! I did everything the same as in this video and it won't work. I copyed my last hand and went to hand replayer and pasted last hand there, then clicked on read data and nothing happened. Now i'm not sure if I did something wrong or is it some mistake in system?
What language have you got your PokerStars client set too, is it English? The hand-replayer will only read hands in English

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Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner



About this hand... I had Kh and 4c and raised to 3BB. One of the Villains re raised to 270... I called hoping to hit top pair with King. That did not happen but I got top pair 4... After i already invested around 30% of my play money in this hand I wanted to get back what was mine and raised all in. 2 other Villains folded and I earned around 500 play money with this raise.

Did I do something wrong or not, I don't know, I would appreciate ur oppinion. Thanks.
 
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Mon Sep 30, 2013, 07:50 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 03:18 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner



About this hand... I had Kh and 4c and raised to 3BB. One of the Villains re raised to 270... I called hoping to hit top pair with King. That did not happen but I got top pair 4... After i already invested around 30% of my play money in this hand I wanted to get back what was mine and raised all in. 2 other Villains folded and I earned around 500 play money with this raise.

Did I do something wrong or not, I don't know, I would appreciate ur oppinion. Thanks.
Hi demeter1994!

The main issue with this hand is preflop. K4o is too weak to open with and definately too weak to call a huge 3bet with. You risked as you said, 30% of your stack on a random hand that is not even ranked in the top half of all hands! This is a recipe for disaster.

Your hand has very little postflop potential. No straight possibilities, nor flush possibilities. Flopping a 4 will rarely be top pair. Worse, if you flop a K and get action, you run a very real risk of being up against an opponent with a K but a better kicker than yours.

Also, you get 3bet in this hand. We need a much stronger hand to call a 3b than we do to open with. You have position which is good, but I would probably want AQs or JJ+ to continue with the hand.

Try to be patient and wait for stronger starting hands. Here is a link to a blog I wrote about starting hands and postflop potential.
http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/blo...with-this-hand

NOTE: you are on a 6-Max table here. Please stick to 9 man Full Ring tables. Firstly, they are much easier to learn on and allow for good, tight play. Secondly, playing anything other than Full Ring can make you ineligible for the remainder of you bankroll builder buyins...

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 05:33 AM
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Super!

Please let us know as soon as you pass the Poker Basic Quiz

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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 08:35 AM
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Thanks a lot for your opinion. I will try to be more patient in the future, and I will play at those 9 man tables

About that quiz. If that is the one with 5 questions I passed it, if not, i'll be wright on it.
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 08:50 AM
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About that quiz. If that is the one with 5 questions I passed it, if not, i'll be wright on it.
Hey there,

It's the 15 question Poker Basic Quiz

Here's the link again:

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/course/Poker-Basics

Cheers,
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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 08:58 AM
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Hey, I just passed that quiz, got 74%. What should I do next?
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 05:44 PM
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Hey, I just passed that quiz, got 74%. What should I do next?
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 09:21 PM
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This is one of the hands that makes a player mad.
I know it's not a 9 man table, but I wanted to try my luck at this table also.

So I had As Ah in my hand, and as any other poker player I was happy about it. I wanted to take it slow, get as much money as I can from other players so I raised to 3BB only. One of the Villains called. Flop came out and there was 10c 3c 5d. An avarage flop for me I think. After the flop I raised to 3BB again and Villain called. Turn card was 2d. Not that good card for me because of straight draw, but I hoped that he did not get a straight and raised again only this time doubled the raise, 6BB. Villain again called. I hoped he had top pair, and he did, but river changed it all. Villain got second pair, and I lost. So I was wondering, should I have done something different or is it just my bad luck?

Thanks
demeter1994
 
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Tue Oct 01, 2013, 09:29 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner


Here is this hand from 9 man table.
As you can see I had two aces this time too. Only this time I won. I raised to 3BB before the flop and 1 Villain called. Flop came out 9c Jc 3d. This time I was a little more aggressive and raised to around 8BB after the flop. Villain folded and I won.
Again I would appriciate your oppinion.
 
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Wed Oct 02, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Oct 02, 2013, 12:39 PM
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Hi demeter1994! I'll analyse the hands in posts 14-15.

With AA, or any hand you decide to play, a standard open of 3bb is fine. On the T53 two-tone board, I would bet just over half pot, to get value from Tx, random pocket pairs and flush draws. The on the turn is basically a blank, as the only hands it helps are 22 (which would probably fold on the flop), A4s (which is unlikely because you have two aces in your hand) and 64s, which only really bad players would play. The hands you are mainly targeting with a value bet are top pairs like KT, QT, JT, T9. The pot is 25c on the turn, and a bet of about half pot is appropriate. You don't want to make it too cheap, because villain could have picked up a flush draw to go with a pair, and you want him to make a call without the right odds to do so. He calls the turn and the river is a Q that completes the backdoor flush draw, and also improves QT to 2 pairs. Nevertheless, you can still bet for value, because most Tx hands will still call. The river is the only street where you can bet less than half pot, because you no longer have to price out the draws. If you're targeting weak one pair hands, then betting just under half pot is fine. Unfortunately, villain hit one of his few outs and dragged the pot. This is just bad luck. He would have made the same calls if you'd bet a little bit more on each street. Bear in mind, however, that since he would have called bigger bets with his hand but won't hit two pairs very often, you'll be missing some value by underbetting in the long run. Always try to bet at least half pot on the flop and turn, especially if the board contains manty draws.

AA UTG on a full ring table is played the same way. The 3bb open is standard. On this flop, I'd go with a bet of about 3/4 pot, as it's quite "wet" with a flush draw and some straight draws for hands like QT. If villain has a jack he'll also call obviously. Unfortunately, you got no action this time, but that's fine. Dragging the pot is still a good result.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions if you can. You can also play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club. Good luck!

Cheers,
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Wed Oct 02, 2013, 12:48 PM
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So it wasn't entirely my fault, great

Now I have 1 step to go, I need to pass cash game quiz. I'll let you know when I do that.

Cheers
 

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