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100K privileged running deep - Thu Oct 03, 2013, 05:15 PM
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I've heard of the stop and push and I think this is what the guy done, the flop looked nice for his small pp, he flopped a set or was he on a flush draw?

i think it's pretty obvious we have to fold here, especially as we're pretty deep... it's just bugging me what he had...

Any ideas?

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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 05:40 PM
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this is not a stop and push.
this is a donk-shove.
without specific reads a donk bet is usually indicative of a weak or vulnerable hand
could be A10+,88+
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 05:43 PM
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So near enough what i htought it was....

so a stop n push is when you bet, get called, then shuvv?
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 05:48 PM
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more like you bet preflop, check and call the flop and turn, and shove river
 
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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 05:55 PM
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Hi BUTTCHIN0707!

With AJ on the button and a limp in front of me, I'm going to make a standard raise, which for this blind level is to 2.5BB+1BB for each limper. Due to this, I will bet 4200.

The villain now donk-shoves a low flop. This bet totally polarizes them. They have a straight, set or nothing. With no read on the opp, this is a very easy fold.

Until the opp has to show one of this type of hand, I'm going to constantly watch for every card that they showdown. Once I see them do this and get called, I can then make a note to use against them in the future.

If I had to guess at what they had, I'd most likely say air (especially in a freeroll) and the bet makes no sense what-so-ever. However, I only have A high with 3rd kicker... so even if I know they have air, I still can't call because I can't beat a bluff.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TweedleBeetl View Post
could be A10+,88+
I'd rule out the big aces, as those should raise preflop. small/mid pairs, non A broadway cards or connectors would be the range I'd be looking at.

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Thu Oct 03, 2013, 07:09 PM
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Thanks John!

Perfectly explained
 

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