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When do you call an all in every hand player? - Sun Oct 06, 2013, 12:44 AM
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There is spot a player I know was in against a player who goes all in every hand.

This player has been to show down once that I know oF and had showed k7o.

So basicly hes going all in with any two cards.


So heres the situation we have.

We are 50 big blinds deep.

We are 1st to raise 100 at 25/50 blinds no antes.

Everyone Folds then the player shoves all in.

The hand is isolated to us. So its a heads up pot.

The oppenent has our chip stack covered.

We have 10 10. Call or let it go?



My opinion is that we call here because more then not we have him beat. But others think its to risky that I have spoken with

I think the only hands that we are close to 50/50 is jq kj kq aj aq ak. I think there are some hands that are close like high cards with low kickers jx qx kx ax. And the only hands that beat us are jj qq kk aa.

So overall I think our chanes to double up and go 4 a deep run are good. Maybe over 70% im not good with numbers but this is just what im guessing.

So do we let it go or take the chance in this spot?
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 01:03 AM
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Against a shove monkey, I'm looking to get it in with 77+, AT+ and probably KJ+ too. If they're shoving everytime, I'm way ahead of their range and it's worth the chance as the favorite.

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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 01:13 AM
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Ty 4 that was thinking the same.
 
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addition - Sun Oct 06, 2013, 03:54 AM
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you come up against this all the time on the pokerschool own league, now while I agree with the calling range mentioned below, i also have a little to add to think about.

you aim is to accrue points, the higher the finish the better the points, that early on i feel the risk of going out when you are not committed doesn't outweigh the points you would lose for league if you do. Yes you know there is a very good chance of being ahead and if you are close to to positive points or similar then yes its a no brainer, get the chips in. but a double up at that point wont change your goal for the league, but the loss can set you back a game or 2.

only my thoughts and it goes every poker players instinct I know, just wanted to put that out there

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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 07:17 AM
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Was it me?

I shoved any 2 last and bullied the whole table. I done it because it was close to the bubble and everyone was limping for a ticket. If you noticed, I rarely called an all in so to beat me you should always be the aggressor and not the caller. I think it's much better to shove any Ax or Kx than call hands like 77 which John suggests. Calling range I'd be TT+ and ATo+ (maybe even tighter on my ATo, depending on who else was at the table.)

I think my play was justified last night and as I commented at the table, it will mess up a few peoples HUDs as they will think I'm a maniac.


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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 07:50 AM
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Was it me?

I shoved any 2 last and bullied the whole table. I done it because it was close to the bubble and everyone was limping for a ticket. If you noticed, I rarely called an all in so to beat me you should always be the aggressor and not the caller. I think it's much better to shove any Ax or Kx than call hands like 77 which John suggests. Calling range I'd be TT+ and ATo+ (maybe even tighter on my ATo, depending on who else was at the table.)

I think my play was justified last night and as I commented at the table, it will mess up a few peoples HUDs as they will think I'm a maniac.
Near the bubble is totally different than at blind level 25/50 that OP is talking about.
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 10:58 AM
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If this is a PSO league game then an argument can be made for folding...

In pretty much any other situation we should be calling here, and fist-pumping at the same time!

Sure we are risking our entire stack early on in a tournament, but we need to take risks in order to build our stack and hopefully win the thing. As you pointed out we are well ahead of his range here, so passing up this opportunity would be daft!

Keep on calling here, and hope we see plenty more spots like this in the future!
 
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Sun Oct 06, 2013, 11:25 AM
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If this is a PSO league game then an argument can be made for folding...
If it's a league game, I'm ONLY calling with QQ, KK, AA... nothing less.

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ooh - Sun Oct 06, 2013, 01:28 PM
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my bad i was assuming it was a PSO open league game, sorry for bumping my gums if it wasn't

all the best

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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 01:36 AM
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I think this was a 1.10 mtt

Also this was far from bubble.

Last edited by pokerstar671; Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 01:49 AM..
 

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