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Can i escape in the river?

Can i escape in the river? - Mon Oct 07, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Since: Apr 2012
Posts: 152
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Button ($2.99)
SB ($2)
Hero (BB) ($2.28)
UTG ($2.02)
MP ($2.02)
CO ($2)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, MP calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.37) Q, 2, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, MP calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.73) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.34, Hero calls $0.34

River: ($1.41) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.68, Hero calls $0.68

Total pot: $2.77 | Rake: $0.10

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It's a must fold on the river? What do you think about the turn check/call line?

Last edited by MrFlopes; Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 11:27 AM..
Mon Oct 07, 2013, 12:06 PM
ArtySmokesPS's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,363
As played, I can't fold the river against a random villain (no stats given), partly because the price is right, but your check-call line is what causes the problem. You let the villain dictate the size of the pot and you end up playing guessing games.

C-betting is standard, and then when you improve to TPTK on the turn, you should bet again. You can go into bet-fold mode. Villain might decide to slowplay and flat with two pairs or a set (and possibly even with the JT nut straight), but if he raises, you have a relatively easy fold. (This might be a spot where Baluga theorem applies in a 3-bet pot, as I can't see a random 2NL player raising the turn with AQ/QJ or other random hands you beat).

There's really no need to put yourself into trouble spots by doing stuff like checking with TPTK. A '2NL for Dummies' guide would emphasise the basic advice: "Bet for value, fold if you get raised", because it's often as simple as that.
If villain did just call on the turn, you could make a small blocking bet on the river (planning to fold to a shove), or sometimes check-call if you think he'll bluff as often as bet for value. Check-calling for two streets is not recommended, however.

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Tue Oct 08, 2013, 07:21 AM
MrFlopes's Avatar
Since: Apr 2012
Posts: 152
I guess my reasoning was that no weak hand would call that king turn on a 3bet pot.I hate prob bets, seem too weak, can't get myself to fire one of them. If i bet turn, i'm prepared to check/fold river. I prefer this line, don't know if it's the best one. Thx, Arty.

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