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0.50$ 45 man sng - Pocket kings - Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:12 AM
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Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players

BTN: 12,184 (40.6 bb)
Hero (SB): 5,960 (19.9 bb)
BB: 1,852 (6.2 bb)
MP: 9,791 (32.6 bb)
CO: 6,794 (22.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
MP folds, CO raises to 600, BTN folds, Hero raises to 1,200, BB folds, CO calls 600

Flop: (2,825) 6 7 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,500, CO calls 1,500

Turn: (5,825) T (2 players)
Hero bets 3,235 and is all-in, CO calls 3,235

River: (12,295) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 12,295 pot
Final Board: 6 7 8 T K
Hero showed K K and lost (-5,960 net)
CO showed K 9 and won 12,295 (6,335 net)







The CO Is playing loose, not so much info on him.

I would like some evaluation on this hand , thanks !

Last edited by kykkylik; Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 10:32 AM..
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 05:52 AM
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What was the purpose of the turn shove? It does not seem to make much sense. the main possibilities are:
he has the straight and will never fold
he does not have the straight and is beat and will never call

the only case the shove makes sense is that you think he has a non-straight hand that beats your KK but will fold to your bluff representing the straight
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 08:13 AM
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I think not shoving here preflop is not good.

I think next time just go all in preflop at those stack sizes. You will probably get called by worse since you said the opponent is loose.

When your reraise your already commited because you only have 20bbs and you also allow him to see the flop in position against you for cheap. It puts you in a bad spot if the board comes out with an ace or something.

But how it played out I think maybe check fold turn? Or shove flop?

I dont know just avoid this type of situation by getting it all in preflop next time.

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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 09:58 AM
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Please repost the hand, as the site that you used cannot have a link to it in the forum per the TOS.

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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:32 AM
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Ok, sorry. Post edited.
 
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Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:54 AM
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Hi kykkylik!

With KK, I get an abnormal min-raise in front of me. Holding a premium made hand, I definitely want to raise and the key is the sizing. I need to raise to 3X the previous bet (or a pot-sized raise if it would be larger). 3X is 1800, however, this is very close to pot-committing me. Whenever I have about 1/3 of my remaining stack put into a pot, I'm pot-committed and cannot ever fold. Due to this, being very close to being pot-committed, I'm 3-bet SHOVING preflop.

I do not want to raise to less than 3X. The reason for it is that betting smaller can give the opp the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I give them the right odds and they do end up winning, it's my own fault that I lose the hand. As played, the opp has to call 600 into 2825 (21.2%).. the opp definitely has this equity against our range with K9s... so it IS a +EV call of a min-raise. I want the opp to have to make -EV plays (ones where they expect to lose chips).

If I did see the flop (which I would not), then I'm definitely shoving the flop. Against one opp, a standard bet sizing is 1/2 pot and this bet definitely will pot-commit me.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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