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89s 10nl in CO facing raise from HJ - Sun Oct 13, 2013, 07:37 AM
bhoylegend's Avatar
Since: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,261
Ok, the second and last of my hands that are probably totally standard but I want some reassurance on.

Dealt 89s in the CO and it folds to the HJ who is an aggressive reg that I have been battling with a little bit. He raises, no-one behind me appears to be aggressive at all but I have limited information on them, although the button has VPIP'd 6/12 hands never betting or raising, so I feel confident that I can call and will be able to see a flop.

I flop what I think is the best hand and bet out when the original raiser declines to cbet and the button calls. The other two go away.

Turn is a blank I think and doesnt bring sole club hands in, at this stage I want to get the money in as soon as possible, if the button is willing to give action.

I think I maybe could have made the turn bet a little bigger? I think I get called by big one club hands chasing their nut flush.

Button elects to come over the top of my turn bet and I pretty much snap call.

So, on this hand I am looking to check if my bet sizing is big enough on the turn?

Insta-call on the turn shove against a perceived loose player? Even though we have little post flop stats for him.

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:02 AM
geoVARTA's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,306
Hi bhoylegend,

Not sure if I like the call in the CO, I personally try to avoid these spots when I have the BTN left to act behind me and could get squeezed by either the BTN or the Blinds. Sometimes I elect to 3bet instead, sometimes I just fold them. I don't think calling is too bad if we have weak players behind us though.

I actually think your bet sizings are good here, maybe a bit big OTF but the turn size looks good to me. Gives room for the BTN to shove and we can set them for stacks OTR. Maybe a bit smaller would be okay too. I'm stacking off anyways, if they have a better flush then good for them its just very unlikely that two opponents flop a flush.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 06:44 AM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
I think there's a lot of variations of this scenario that would make me b/f the turn.

These variations include villain being 100bb+ deep, villain being a reg that would be PP heavy, or a flop like KQ7 which would allow the villain to have 2 pair in his range and fill up OTT etc etc

As played, I think it's fine given we called pre. If we know players left behind love flatting a lot and we are guaranteed a MW pot, then I like the call. Otherwise, my default play would be to fold.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 05:17 PM
bhoylegend's Avatar
Since: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,261
The reason I called was because I didnt think the two behind would raise. I fully expected them to call and passive. The Big Blind was a reggish looking player and could have squeezed but frankly I was happy just to flat to keep the button in. I felt he was weak. I'd also had a running battle with the original raiser, and looking at all the hands I played with him, I raised him quite a bit, if I raise him again there is a chance he just shoves his better hands on me and I dont get to play with the perceived weak players behind with what is a playable hand multi-way.

I'm playing more SC hands at the minute so sorry if some of these hands are either straightforward or just look fishy/weak.

I actually felt this hand was pretty decently played given my perceptions of the other players.

Thanks Geo for the analysis on both hands, the KJ hand is definitely noted, and I will note the comments on the betsizing on this hand.

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