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Bankroll builder promotion - Tue Oct 15, 2013, 05:22 PM
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Hi,

I am new to PSO and would like to take part in the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Many thanks!

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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:53 AM
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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:03 AM
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Hi madcyclist00,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

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Bankroll builder session feedback - set of 3s - bet size ok - Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:58 PM
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I won this hand with a set of 3s. Just wondering if I could have gotten my opponents to put more money into the pot. Were my bet sizes good, or should i have bet more aggressively?

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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:22 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Fri Oct 18, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Hi madcyclist00,

I will be your Hand Analyzer for this post

Though I don't advocate limping into pots, this is one spot where I think overlimping has merits. We can call to set mine and keep a big stack to pot ratio for implied odds in a multiway pot.
Definitely bet the flop for value, we can get called by worse and there are a few draws out there that we want to charge. I like your sizing. Though the turn brings an Ace that might be a scare card to weak pair hands, I think we have to bet the turn here too and I would make it slightly bigger maybe even to 30 so that we can have less that pot sized bet on the river to get stacks in.
 
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Fri Oct 18, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Please let us know when you have passed your basics quiz, so we may proceed to the next step!

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Bankroll builder - Poker quiz passed - Tue Oct 22, 2013, 04:44 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for the hand analysis! I have now passed the poker quiz as well.

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:15 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Bankroll builder session feedback - 1/2ct hand for analysis - Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:24 PM
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Hi,

I waited for a straight or a flush with this hand, but it did not materialize. Should I have bet more aggressively to try to make my opponent fold, or should I have folded earlier to minimize losses?

Many thanks!

 
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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:25 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:23 PM
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Hi madcyclist00! I'll analyse the hand in post #10.

Your problems with this hand begin pre-flop. 65s is a weak hand, but it's OK to play it in late position, especially in a multiway pot, as you can get good odds to chase a flush or straight. In early position, it's best to fold it. Limping in (just calling the big blind) is a weak play that telegraphs the weakness of your hand and doesn't give you an immediate chance to win the pot. If a hand is good enough to play, it's good enough to raise. By limping in, you're already playing passively, which is not profitable. As played, you limp and there's a raise and a call. Now you have pretty good pot odds to call, but it's very hard to make money when you're out of position like this, as your opponents will get to see you act first, meaning they can fold when you bet (so they don't pay you off if you make a hand).
As played, you call, and the flop comes a 932 rainbow. This is a pretty dry flop that probably misses everyone, as there are no good draws, and no Broadways cards, but the villain could have top set or an overpair. All you have is a gutshot straight draw. To feel good about your hand, you'd need to hit a 4. With just 4 outs, the odds are stacked against you. I would fold to any bet on the flop, as you don't have the right odds to call. One villain makes a fairly small bet, of less than half pot, but it's still not a great price when your gutshot is worse than a 10:1 shot. Instead you called, and see the on the turn. This is a good card for you as you picked up a flush draw to go with your gutshot. Even so, you only have 12 outs, and it might be the case that the villain has a better flush draw. He bets half pot on the turn, and this gives you a tough decision. You're not getting quite the right immediate odds, but you might be able to win another bet out of villain if you make your hand. I would generally recommend folding draws when out of position faced with bets of half pot, but calling isn't terrible. The river is a brick, so you can obviously fold there.
I think the lesson to learn here is that passively chasing draws is not profitable. You'll hit them occasionally, but won't make enough money to make up for all the times you miss. It's far better to be the player value-betting with a made hand like top pair, than be the calling station chasing a draw. As a beginner, you should stick to playing "big cards" and focus on being aggressive with them, betting and raising when you have a big hand. With weak hands like 65s, don't limp in and call bets with weak draws post-flop. Just fold pre and wait for a better hand.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Bankroll builder promotion - Answer to bet sizing question - Thu Oct 24, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Hi,

Many thanks for the hand analysis!

Here is the answer to your bet sizing question "List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?"

1) To put pressure on opponents
2) To bluff people off decent hands
3) To gain value from very strong hands

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Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:31 PM
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Please let us know when you have passed your cash quiz, so we may proceed to the next step!

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Bankroll builder promo - cash quiz passed - Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:59 AM
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Hi,

I have now passed the cash quiz.

Thanks,
madcyclist00
 
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Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:25 PM
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Hi ,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Bankroll builder - hands where I lost - Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Hi,

i am having some issues with the hand replayer for the hands where I lost. It gives me error messages related to the player names. Below is the text output - not sure how much that helps.

I guess I have completely underestimated the strength of my opponent there. In retrospect I should have been more careful on the turn and folded to the re-raise. Would you agree?

*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Zoom Hand #106273440245: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2013/10/30 21:56:46 WET [2013/10/30 17:56:46 ET]
Table 'McNaught' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: idu_kuru ($1.11 in chips)
Seat 2: !EXXERRZIST! ($2.94 in chips)
Seat 3: Tuncra ($5.38 in chips)
Seat 4: madcyclist00 ($0.74 in chips)
Seat 5: Gorgen112 ($1.63 in chips)
Seat 6: eeeerr ($1.91 in chips)
Seat 7: antonimuz ($2.35 in chips)
Seat 8: PotHyena ($2 in chips)
Seat 9: leo walsh ($1.87 in chips)
!EXXERRZIST!: posts small blind $0.01
Tuncra: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to madcyclist00 [Qs Ah]
madcyclist00: calls $0.02
Gorgen112: folds
eeeerr: calls $0.02
antonimuz: folds
PotHyena: folds
leo walsh: calls $0.02
idu_kuru: folds
!EXXERRZIST!: folds
Tuncra: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Jc Qd]
Tuncra: checks
madcyclist00: bets $0.04
eeeerr: folds
leo walsh: calls $0.04
Tuncra: folds
*** TURN *** [Js Jc Qd] [As]
madcyclist00: bets $0.16
leo walsh: raises $0.16 to $0.32
madcyclist00: calls $0.16
*** RIVER *** [Js Jc Qd As] [6h]
madcyclist00: checks
leo walsh: bets $0.78
madcyclist00: calls $0.36 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.42) returned to leo walsh
*** SHOW DOWN ***
leo walsh: shows [Ac Jd] (a full house, Jacks full of Aces)
madcyclist00: mucks hand
leo walsh collected $1.48 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.53 | Rake $0.05
Board [Js Jc Qd As 6h]
Seat 1: idu_kuru (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: !EXXERRZIST! (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Tuncra (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: madcyclist00 mucked [Qs Ah]
Seat 5: Gorgen112 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: eeeerr folded on the Flop
Seat 7: antonimuz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PotHyena folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: leo walsh showed [Ac Jd] and won ($1.48) with a full house, Jacks full of Aces
 
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Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:17 AM
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Bankroll builder - hands where I lost - Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:48 PM
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Thanks, royalraise85! Did that just work for you or did you have to modify my text input?

Any further comments on that hand (apart from that I obviously played it wrong and should have folded). When would have been the best point to fold?

I would also be interested in your opinion on how suitable the "Zoom" tables are for beginners?

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Fri Nov 01, 2013, 07:48 AM
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Hi madcyclist00,

I will be your Hand Analyzer for this post

With AQ, I would look to open raise from UTG; I generally don't advocate limping into pots. I want to come in with a raise to build a pot and have initiative in the hand post flop.

When our opponent raises the turn, I think we should be cautious. We have two pair on a paired board and by limping into the pot we let him call preflop and see a flop cheaply with all sorts of Jx hands. OTT, I don't see many hands we beat especially when we bet two streets with two Jacks on board and an overcard OTT. If they had something they would just call so it seems they have a strong hand that can atleast beat an Ace. They could have KT, Jx, QJ so I think we should be bet/folding the turn.
 

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