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Losing pocket KK across 2 tables under 2 mins - Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:14 PM
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Wed Oct 16, 2013, 08:36 PM
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Hi IBStryp!

In the first one, gotta look at the betting. If I've got KK, I cannot min-raise, as this gives the opps the right odds to try to outdraw me. I need to raise to at least 3X the previous bet (1200), but this pot-commits me so I have to shove.

By raising small and letting the opp see a J, it's a +EV play for the opp on the flop and if it's +EV for them, they expect to GAIN chips, so they should be in the hand.

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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:23 AM
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Hi IBStryp!

In the first one, gotta look at the betting. If I've got KK, I cannot min-raise, as this gives the opps the right odds to try to outdraw me. I need to raise to at least 3X the previous bet (1200), but this pot-commits me so I have to shove.

By raising small and letting the opp see a J, it's a +EV play for the opp on the flop and if it's +EV for them, they expect to GAIN chips, so they should be in the hand.

Good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

Hi JWK24,

I understand after reviewing the first hand I had to go all in, I was greedy and tried to get more chips in and it backfired. But the guy before me raised 400 and I raised 600, do you mean I should've gone all in at that point, or pre flop? I don't see me min raise.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:57 AM
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They raised from 200 to 400 (200). Therefore a min re-raise is adding the same amount (200) to their bet, which is 600.

A standard raise is to 3X their bet (1200).. but since that pot-commits me, I need to shove.


Slowplaying hands normally accomplishes one thing... to get me beat because I give the opp the right odds to outdraw me.. which is why I avoid doing it.

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One way to avoid min-raising... never hit the raise button. Always type in the bet that you want to make.


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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 01:46 AM
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They raised from 200 to 400 (200). Therefore a min re-raise is adding the same amount (200) to their bet, which is 600.

A standard raise is to 3X their bet (1200).. but since that pot-commits me, I need to shove.


Slowplaying hands normally accomplishes one thing... to get me beat because I give the opp the right odds to outdraw me.. which is why I avoid doing it.

John (JWK24)

One way to avoid min-raising... never hit the raise button. Always type in the bet that you want to make.
Right you are sir, as you have been. Muchos gracias, notes taken.
 

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