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Going for Silver... - Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:58 AM
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After more than doubling my bankroll, I will try to go for Silver status next month. I will play 3.5 SNG. I need to play at least 11 games each day (less if I will play on weekends). I will use the Cowboy challenge format as my stop gap. I will reserve a portion of my bankroll for 30 games. 9-man SNG is not my strong game at moment, but that's where I initially build up my bankroll. So I hope I can get back at it again.

I will do an initial run the remaining of this month and if I do ok, I will push it through November.

Summary
Starting Bankroll: $105
Game Format: $3.5 SNG (regular)
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:20 AM
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This will be fun to follow. I am sure you will do great.

GL Kabayan


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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:43 AM
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Update
Seems I have lots of bubble finish. Looking at my stats, Im losing lots of bb when im in the blinds position. Must find out why.

Game --- Tourn ID --- Rank --- Buyin --- Prize --- Balance
001 --- 802605624 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 107.09
002 --- 802608073 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 111.98
003 --- 803027267 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 108.48
004 --- 803374229 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.98
005 --- 803423425 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.48
006 --- 803443013 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.98
007 --- 803465958 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 108.49
008 --- 803481342 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.99
009 --- 803527989 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.49
010 --- 803549272 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.99
011 --- 803562143 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 94.49

Summary
Bankroll: 94.49
Profit: -10.51
Games: 11
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:05 AM
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Try to depend your blinds with 3 betting from late position steal when you still have 16-21BB.

Hope it helps to get some respect.

PH
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:51 PM
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Try to depend your blinds with 3 betting from late position steal when you still have 16-21BB.

Hope it helps to get some respect.

PH
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You are right PH, I dont get to 3bet a lot. With 16-21bb, do you 3bet SHOVE vs steal with any card? or do you just reraise x2 - x3? Thanks for the input PH.
 
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:29 PM
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Your back to back final tables in the Big Bang was very impressive, and gives you a lot to build on. Good luck with this challenge!


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Fri Oct 18, 2013, 08:03 AM
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Your back to back final tables in the Big Bang was very impressive, and gives you a lot to build on. Good luck with this challenge!
Thanks ArtySmokesPS... got a little bit lucky at the Big Bang.
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2013, 03:13 PM
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Update on my Cowboy Challenge

Managed to cash on my last few games. Still on the negative side though. Hope the next games will be much better.


Game --- Tourn ID --- Rank --- Buyin --- Prize --- Balance
1 --- 802605624 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 107.09
2 --- 802608073 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 111.98
3 --- 803027267 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 108.48
4 --- 803374229 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.98
5 --- 803423425 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.48
6 --- 803443013 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.98
7 --- 803465958 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 108.49
8 --- 803481342 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.99
9 --- 803527989 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.49
10 --- 803549272 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.99
11 --- 803562143 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 94.49
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12 --- 803927471 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.99
13 --- 803960291 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 87.49
14 --- 806225923 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 83.99
15 --- 806241482 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.08
16 --- 806709773 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 82.58
17 --- 806782904 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 84.67
18 --- 807129592 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.76
19 --- 807159322 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 97.27
20 --- 807192873 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 93.77

Starting Bankroll: $105 (30 buy-ins)
Current Bankroll: $93.77
Profit: -$11.23
Total Games: 20
 
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Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:20 PM
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Good Luck !!!

The tide is start turning around.

Keep it up.

PH
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:24 AM
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Update on my Cowboy Challenge

Still no improvement...


Game --- Tourn ID --- Rank --- Buyin --- Prize --- Balance
1 --- 802605624 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 107.09
2 --- 802608073 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 111.98
3 --- 803027267 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 108.48
4 --- 803374229 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.98
5 --- 803423425 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.48
6 --- 803443013 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.98
7 --- 803465958 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 108.49
8 --- 803481342 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.99
9 --- 803527989 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.49
10 --- 803549272 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.99
11 --- 803562143 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 94.49
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
12 --- 803927471 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.99
13 --- 803960291 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 87.49
14 --- 806225923 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 83.99
15 --- 806241482 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.08
16 --- 806709773 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 82.58
17 --- 806782904 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 84.67
18 --- 807129592 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.76
19 --- 807159322 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 97.27
20 --- 807192873 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 93.77
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21 --- 807474836 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.27
22 --- 807487365 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 100.78
23 --- 807527184 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.28
24 --- 807995406 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 93.78
25 --- 808077007 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.28



Starting Bankroll: $105 (30 buy-ins)
Current Bankroll: $90.28
Profit: -$14.72
Total Games: 25
Buy-ins Left: 25
ROI: -17%
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:13 AM
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I realize your silverstar target is for next month but you have been playing far under 11 games/day.
Do you think you will be able to maintain that volume for a whole month?

How many tables are you playing?
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:01 AM
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I realize your silverstar target is for next month but you have been playing far under 11 games/day.
Do you think you will be able to maintain that volume for a whole month?

How many tables are you playing?
Hi TweedleBeetl, right now I just want to know if I have the skill to beat this level of SNG or at least just break even. I do multi-table. I can handle about 9, but will probably go for 6 tables each session and do 2 2-hour sessions each day. I think playing volume is not a problem. The problem is multi-tabling and knowing you are just losing money. That will be the brick wall I have to overcome. So hopefully, after this warm up, I will have full confidence to tackle the challenge.

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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:11 AM
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Hi TweedleBeetl, right now I just want to know if I have the skill to beat this level of SNG or at least just break even. I do multi-table. I can handle about 9, but will probably go for 6 tables each session and do 2 2-hour sessions each day. I think playing volume is not a problem. The problem is multi-tabling and knowing you are just losing money. That will be the brick wall I have to overcome. So hopefully, after this warm up, I will have full confidence to tackle the challenge.
Great.
I have also been doing trial runs at these games. Maybe we will both be playing them next month.
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:31 AM
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Hi TweedleBeetl, right now I just want to know if I have the skill to beat this level of SNG or at least just break even. I do multi-table. I can handle about 9, but will probably go for 6 tables each session and do 2 2-hour sessions each day. I think playing volume is not a problem. The problem is multi-tabling and knowing you are just losing money. That will be the brick wall I have to overcome. So hopefully, after this warm up, I will have full confidence to tackle the challenge.

At any new level you should drop the amount of tables and concentrate on building your database of players and notes.

There won't be too much of a difference between $1.50 and $3.50 games but I have noticed there are a few very decent regs that play this level and upwards some of whom can make a living at the game. Identify these players and (depending on what game you play) avoid them if you can. A decent reg will make it so much harder for you to cash so table select games with weak players and players you haven't played before that are one tabling.

I think table selection is one of the most important things you can do. When I played Limit STTs I was a top shark at the $1.50 but I struggled at $3.50 and upwards because there were a few players as good or better than me. The player pool is pretty small in these types of games and I really couldn't avoid them. Considering 6 max only pays top 2 places it was a dogfight in every game as to who made the cash.

Good luck!


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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:22 AM
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Update on my Cowboy Challenge

A good run today. Played 2 sessions. Each session I played 4 tables. There are some advantages to playing multi-table.

1. It keeps you alert and more focused on the games - you have no time to do things other than play poker (ie, no facebook, no youtube, etc.)

2. You also have no time to sob on your bad beats, or else the other tables suffer.

3. Minimizes creativity during play. You don't easily get bored thus you don't play many speculative hands which will only cost you chips.

The important thing you should consider when multi-tabling is, you should not be a particularly bad player, and you have to really find your sweet spot. There is such thing as too many tables.


Game --- Tourn ID --- Rank --- Buyin --- Prize --- Balance
1 --- 802605624 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 107.09
2 --- 802608073 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 111.98
3 --- 803027267 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 108.48
4 --- 803374229 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.98
5 --- 803423425 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.48
6 --- 803443013 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.98
7 --- 803465958 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 108.49
8 --- 803481342 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 104.99
9 --- 803527989 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 101.49
10 --- 803549272 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.99
11 --- 803562143 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 94.49
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
12 --- 803927471 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.99
13 --- 803960291 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 87.49
14 --- 806225923 --- 8 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 83.99
15 --- 806241482 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.08
16 --- 806709773 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 82.58
17 --- 806782904 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 84.67
18 --- 807129592 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 86.76
19 --- 807159322 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 97.27
20 --- 807192873 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 93.77
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 --- 807474836 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.27
22 --- 807487365 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 100.78
23 --- 807527184 --- 5 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 97.28
24 --- 807995406 --- 4 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 93.78
25 --- 808077007 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.28
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
26 --- 808449456 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 95.17
28 --- 808450003 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 91.67
29 --- 808451460 --- 3 --- 3.50 --- 5.59 --- 93.76
31 --- 808451867 --- 7 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 90.26
32 --- 808518278 --- 7 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 86.76
33 --- 808518989 --- 1 --- 3.50 --- 14.01 --- 97.27
35 --- 808520098 --- 2 --- 3.50 --- 8.39 --- 102.16
37 --- 808521008 --- 6 --- 3.50 --- 0.00 --- 98.66



Starting Bankroll: $105 (30 buy-ins)
Current Bankroll: $98.66
Profit: -$6.34
Total Games: 37
Buy-ins Left: 28
ROI: - 5%
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Great.
I have also been doing trial runs at these games. Maybe we will both be playing them next month.
I will be looking forward to playing with you... unless of course, you will make my challenge more difficult. If such is the case, I will have to avoid you just like what Ovalman suggest Goodluck also on your trial run!
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:31 AM
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At any new level you should drop the amount of tables and concentrate on building your database of players and notes.

There won't be too much of a difference between $1.50 and $3.50 games but I have noticed there are a few very decent regs that play this level and upwards some of whom can make a living at the game. Identify these players and (depending on what game you play) avoid them if you can. A decent reg will make it so much harder for you to cash so table select games with weak players and players you haven't played before that are one tabling.

I think table selection is one of the most important things you can do. When I played Limit STTs I was a top shark at the $1.50 but I struggled at $3.50 and upwards because there were a few players as good or better than me. The player pool is pretty small in these types of games and I really couldn't avoid them. Considering 6 max only pays top 2 places it was a dogfight in every game as to who made the cash.

Good luck!
Hi Ovalman. Thanks very much for the advice. While this is something I know, about table selection, it is one that I do not regularly practice. I do keep a look out for grinders, but I don't actively avoid them. Like in my last session, there was one player who was there in my 4 tables (well,he did registered first in all of my 4). So I kept an eye on him all through out the games and we played heads-up in one of the tables, and I lost to him.

I think it is about time that I practice this table selection. $3.5 SNG still generates a lot of traffic and it will definitely be an advantage if we can wait for while and stay clear from these grinders. Very good advice. Thanks for reminding me.
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:49 AM
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Hi Ovalman. Thanks very much for the advice. While this is something I know, about table selection, it is one that I do not regularly practice. I do keep a look out for grinders, but I don't actively avoid them. Like in my last session, there was one player who was there in my 4 tables (well,he did registered first in all of my 4). So I kept an eye on him all through out the games and we played heads-up in one of the tables, and I lost to him.

I think it is about time that I practice this table selection. $3.5 SNG still generates a lot of traffic and it will definitely be an advantage if we can wait for while and stay clear from these grinders. Very good advice. Thanks for reminding me.
Find as much information about your opponents as possible. Use Sharkscope, Playerscope and any other tracking site out there.

As I said, there were players at $3.50+ that were playing $100 STTs. The player pool is pretty small but there were a few I played that had $10k+ Sharkscopes. Remember, they will almost certainly be using a HUD so if you use a HUD then look at their game closely.

When I played 50c 45 Man games I regularly came up against the top player on Playerscope at this level. He now has his stats hidden but that brief search gleaned me so much. I was able to learn that he was a few $k in profit and that he pawned me in certain spots.

Analyse every hand he plays and how he plays it. Think of hands from his perspective. When I done this his bullying stopped, I was able to read his game. He's still difficult to play against but I 3 bet him more, resteal his steals and give him less respect but I suspect his game is also evolving and he's thinking about how I play.

He's a rarity at micro stakes but found much more at $3.50 and above. You really need to identify these players and adopt your game to their game.

Poker is a game of incomplete information so every bit of added info is in your favour. Avoid good players if you can but if you know their game then you can at least give as good as you get.

HTH and keep taking those notes


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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:55 AM
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If I'm registering I try not to play the same player on 4 tables. At Limit I had no choice but in regular STTs then you can skip a table or 2 and play some your "reg" is not in. Use the colour coding when you get to know them. There are more ABC bad regs than good ones. Avoid the good and just take advantage of the bad regs mistakes.

I'm also guilty of jumping straight in but I do practice the avoiding the same regs in every table.


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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 03:06 PM
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Find as much information about your opponents as possible. Use Sharkscope, Playerscope and any other tracking site out there.
I have been intending to ask about this. Is it OK to look up a player on tracking sites while I am actually playing?
 

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