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HU post flop play quandary - $0.25 NL Hold'em - Wed Oct 23, 2013, 11:38 AM
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This is a hand from a $0.25 NL Hold'em [90 Players] - Level III (25/50) that I often face and am almost always unsure of how to proceed, especially when holding good pre flop hole cards.

What's a good way to play this flop and turn with now seemingly worthless hole cards, flushes worry me a lot? So much that I did not even think the guy may have been set mining.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...603_7B4FAB6170
 
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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:45 PM
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Hi IBNash!

With ATs from MP, honestly, this is not that great of a preflop hand. It's very marginal and a hand that I'm going to muck from this position the overwhelming majority of the time, especially early in a tourney, because I'm most likely going to be out of position for the rest of the hand. Good preflop cards from here are AQ+ 99+. If I was on the button or cutoff and it folded to me, I'd open basically everytime, but not from MP.
If I did decide to play the hand, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper and raise to 150.

I see a HU flop OOP (there's a huge disadvantage to being OOP and this is a good example of why). I flop TPTK and being out of position and in the lead of the hand, I need to make a value bet. The key is the sizing. A standard bet for having one opp is 1/2 pot and due to this I will bet 193. I do not want to bet more than this as all it will do is to bloat the pot with me at a huge disadvantage. If the opp calls my 1/2 pot bet and does have a draw, they WILL lose chips to me on average here each and every single time.

The opp calls and the turn completes not only the flush draw, but also a straight draw. Here's why being OOP is a huge disadvantage and why I try to avoid playing pots OOP whenever possible. I have absolutely no clue whether I'm ahead or not. If I'm ahead, then I need to make a standard value bet. If I'm behind, I need to check and fold. What I cannot do is to do something in-between.
Since the turn completed the draws and I only have 1 pair, I'm check/folding the flop. I should also have more chips to go to the next hand with, but don't due to the unnecessary overbet on the flop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 09:59 PM
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Thanks John, I have folded pocket 55s after hitting my set to flops like that even HU with just 1 guy betting the pot. I dunno if that was clever.

Looks like I was overvauling the hole cards, coupled with being OOP, this was an unfavorable situation.
 
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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:08 PM
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If I flop a set, then worst case, I have 7 outs to the turn and 10 to the river... I'm not folding.

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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 02:04 AM
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If I flop a set, then worst case, I have 7 outs to the turn and 10 to the river... I'm not folding.

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You're not folding your set even if you hold and the flop is and a not too loose opponent, who'd called your 3 bet, now bets close to the pot?
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:17 AM
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Hi IBNash!

Nope, I'm not folding. I can get called by much worse (mostly a pair and a flush draw or some opps will over-value top pair). Even worst case, I still have a bunch of outs.

Also, there was never a 3-bet. A 3-bet is a bet then raise then the 3-bet is a re-raise.

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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 09:29 AM
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Thanks John, I have folded pocket 55s after hitting my set to flops like that even HU with just 1 guy betting the pot. I dunno if that was clever.

Looks like I was overvauling the hole cards, coupled with being OOP, this was an unfavorable situation.
Hi John, sorry about the confusion, I was referring to the hand above which I never linked to.
And thanks for the review, I will call or go all in with a set the next time.
 

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