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Did i play this horribly? - Wed Oct 23, 2013, 02:29 PM
winaloot's Avatar
Since: Sep 2013
Posts: 11

Did i play this wrong, bearing in mind my instincts sugested they had hit their straight?

PokerStars Hand #105927987306: Tournament #805105438, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2013/10/23 14:22:27 ET
Table '805105438 169' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: papo457 (1086 in chips)
Seat 2: palerider185 (2000 in chips)
Seat 3: Germelin (6703 in chips)
Seat 4: Curetf2 (1850 in chips)
Seat 5: winaloot (2200 in chips)
Seat 6: RedLee78 (3055 in chips)
Seat 7: valach_n (4076 in chips)
Seat 8: REaDorF_XX (1960 in chips)
Seat 9: speady5533 (3440 in chips)
valach_n: posts small blind 40
REaDorF_XX: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to winaloot [8s 7s]
speady5533 has timed out
speady5533: folds
speady5533 is sitting out
papo457: folds
palerider185 is connected
palerider185: calls 80
Germelin: folds
Curetf2: calls 80
winaloot: calls 80
speady5533 has returned
RedLee78: folds
valach_n: folds
REaDorF_XX: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 4d 7d]
REaDorF_XX: checks
palerider185: bets 80
Curetf2: calls 80
winaloot: raises 320 to 400
REaDorF_XX: folds
palerider185: raises 640 to 1040
Curetf2: folds
winaloot: raises 1080 to 2120 and is all-in
palerider185: calls 880 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (200) returned to winaloot
*** TURN *** [8c 4d 7d] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [8c 4d 7d Kh] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
palerider185: shows [5d 6d] (a straight, Four to Eight)
winaloot: shows [8s 7s] (a full house, Eights full of Sevens)
winaloot collected 4280 from pot
palerider185 finished the tournament in 3481st place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4280 | Rake 0
Board [8c 4d 7d Kh 8h]
Seat 1: papo457 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: palerider185 showed [5d 6d] and lost with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 3: Germelin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Curetf2 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: winaloot showed [8s 7s] and won (4280) with a full house, Eights full of Sevens
Seat 6: RedLee78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: valach_n (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: REaDorF_XX (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: speady5533 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:48 PM
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Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:53 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,793
Hi winaloot!

I think you played this one very well.

Preflop with 78o, I can either limp behind and hope to flop a monster or I can make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper. While I can raise, I will limp behind the majority of the time here.

I flop top 2 pair on a board with a flush draw, multiple straight draws and a possible made straight. When I get an abnormally small bet by an opp and a call, I need to raise the flop and the key is the sizing of it. A standard bet with 3 opps is 3/4 pot, so I will raise by 3/4 pot to 440... BUT... this bet pot-commits me and since I can't fold if I make the bet, I'm shoving the flop.

As played, an opp now 3-bets and I need to see if calling is correct (but I can't just call, as this will pot commit me, so I need to shove). I have to put 1520 into a pot that will be 4280 (35.5%). Worst case scenario, they already have the straight and I have 2 draws at 4 outs (16% equity from the rule of 4 and 2), but the overwhelming majority of the time, I'm way ahead and have well over 50% equity, maybe even them having to hit runner/runner. Even if they only have the flush draw, I will win 64% of the time.
When all these situations are combined, I have much more than 35.5% hand equity, so I'm getting my chips in and shoving.

Coolers like these are why we need to have 100 buy-ins in our bankrolls to follow proper bankroll management. I want my chips into a situation like this and my bankroll needs to be able to withstand doing so.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


6 Time Bracelet Winner

Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:52 PM
winaloot's Avatar
Since: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
Wow what an excellent response! thank you very much

I ended up near the bubble but cashed a similar tourney for $12 straight after

Thanks for the info

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