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Can Anyone Explain? - Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:03 PM
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PokerStars Hand #106067160543: Tournament #805105357, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/10/26 13:50:43 ET
Table '805105357 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Dioniss82 (11380 in chips)
Seat 3: 2 Evil Eyes (3177 in chips)
Seat 4: thunt75574 (2750 in chips)
Seat 5: PokerstarMX (2560 in chips)
Seat 6: EasyChips4U (2640 in chips)
Seat 7: tykkerkaj (2300 in chips)
Seat 8: pranavd1980 (2900 in chips)
Seat 9: Timo0505 (2035 in chips)
2 Evil Eyes: posts small blind 50
thunt75574: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EasyChips4U [Ah As]
PokerstarMX: folds
EasyChips4U: raises 100 to 200
tykkerkaj: folds
pranavd1980: folds
Timo0505: folds
Dioniss82: folds
2 Evil Eyes: folds
thunt75574: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [3h 8d 2h]
thunt75574: checks
EasyChips4U: bets 300
thunt75574: raises 400 to 700
EasyChips4U: raises 1740 to 2440 and is all-in
thunt75574: calls 1740
*** TURN *** [3h 8d 2h] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [3h 8d 2h 8c] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thunt75574: shows [Tc 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
EasyChips4U: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
thunt75574 collected 5330 from pot
EasyChips4U finished the tournament in 988th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5330 | Rake 0
Board [3h 8d 2h 8c Jc]
Seat 2: Dioniss82 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 2 Evil Eyes (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: thunt75574 (big blind) showed [Tc 8h] and won (5330) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 5: PokerstarMX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EasyChips4U showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 7: tykkerkaj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: pranavd1980 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Timo0505 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Now do a player search for thunt75574 on any of the many trackin sites available. Conclusions??

Let me clarify what I am askin...

Is this a brand new playa wid no previous online history, as this is the 1st day of his/her online career?

or...

Is this an older playa... wida new name (thereby wiping out all previous stats?

or...

???

Last edited by EasyChips4U; Sat Oct 26, 2013 at 03:27 PM.. Reason: Add-on
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:25 PM
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not sure what you are trying to say here.

looks like you misplayed your AA badly.

you minraised giving the BB tons of odds to call with his one-gapper.
he flops top pair and thinks he is good. he crushes your open range so raises your CB.
when you shove you probably puts a lot of AK in your range and maybe thinks he is pop committed and not doing too badly againts your shove range there given pot odds. after all you are at the top of your range there. he sucks out.

did not find the guy on one tracking site i tried. is that your point?
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:32 PM
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Put you on a flush draw, my conclusion.
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TweedleBeetl View Post
not sure what you are trying to say here.

looks like you misplayed your AA badly.

you minraised giving the BB tons of odds to call with his one-gapper.
he flops top pair and thinks he is good. he crushes your open range so raises your CB.
when you shove you probably puts a lot of AK in your range and maybe thinks he is pop committed and not doing too badly againts your shove range there given pot odds. after all you are at the top of your range there. he sucks out.

did not find the guy on one tracking site i tried. is that your point?
I'm not lookin 4 a hand analysis... I wanna know why I cant find anything on this playa on trackin sites available.

Last edited by EasyChips4U; Sat Oct 26, 2013 at 03:36 PM.. Reason: typo
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyChips4U View Post
I'm not lookin 4 a hand anaylsis... I wanna know why I cant find anything on this playa on trackin sites available.
What was the point of posting the hand then?
In any case he might have opted out.
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
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http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-St...ers/thunt75574

says they only played 0 games
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TweedleBeetl View Post
What was the point of posting the hand then?
In any case he might have opted out.

If u were familiar wid the trackin site i use, u would know that...

even if he opted out, this playa would still show up, but have certain stats blocked.

The other only option available would be to asked to NOT be included 4 tracking purposes... and then if u did a playa search, the trackin site will state,

"Stats for <player> are not available."

do a playa search on Sandtrap777 on PokerStars to see what I mean...


But in this instance, this particular playa is "off the radar"???

Why is that?

Perhaps...

Last edited by TOO2COO; Sat Oct 26, 2013 at 07:31 PM.. Reason: Removed comments T2C
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 03:56 PM
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Maybe he is new to pokerstars or perhaps he is multi-accounting, I find those two more probable than being a mtt bot.

Last edited by GamblingProp; Sat Oct 26, 2013 at 03:59 PM..
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyChips4U View Post
But in this instance, this particular playa is "off the radar"???

Why is that?
Players can request that their numbers be totally removed. Don't know if this is what happened, but it is an option from the couple of sites that I use.

John (JWK24)


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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 05:11 PM
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I doubt he/she is new, or using multi-accounts. The idea of 'bots' is quite possible according to the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) here in Canada.


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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:19 PM
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For what its worth Im voting for new player or multi accounting ,as for bots I thought most were easy to play at because they play very ABC/maths driven poker ?,and if your suggesting a Stars MTT BOT ,dont believe strs are going to risk it all with a MTT BOT from the inside !just not worth it.Always possible an emplkoyee is up to something fishy on the downlow ,but from what I have read/seen/know the chance of them getting far at Stars/FTP very very slim.
Did you report this SUPPORT at PokerStars ? I would,do report anything I see that seems beyond variance,(Not often) as Stars can only react if they are aware,somethimes it takes a few player reports to get alarms tripping.
one final note ,I realize that that hand itself was not the issue,but PLEASE use the replayer for wallys like me,think it also shows "Time-Tells" that help to out bots ,correct me if wrong.
Good Luck on The Felts
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:21 PM
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I doubt he/she is new, or using multi-accounts. The idea of 'bots' is quite possible according to the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) here in Canada.

So are you guys saying that if a bot plays the stats are not tracked?

Gven the way the hand played I go for new player

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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:25 PM
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new player.......hiccup

cheers all
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:27 PM
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Maxi possible yes ,but with PStars I think the chances of a bot lasting very long,even making the starting grid,remote,Anti-Bot software both Stars and ohters has made huge leaps in recent times,
Things like the UB Super User Fraud are picked up very very quickly (Im aware a bot is not the same but the pro active software is comparable from a devolpment point of view)
Hatwe to sound like a PokerStars PR mouthpiece but when they good they good.
For balance when they bad they bad e.g.The current rip off of stopping transferring of more than 1K of play $ in 24 hours to another player ,which you have won and paid rake on !, while Stars sells off millions at a tidy profit. But Thats another story.


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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
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once again effeas writes a long mind-numbing reply to the post when one or two words would achieve the same result !!!!


oops wait a minute thats my reply post !
effeas is the One-Word-Reply -King.


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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 06:33 PM
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hiccup
 
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Sat Oct 26, 2013, 07:00 PM
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Everyone who said, "new playa", are most probably right... "new" as to PokerStars.

I managed to find a single result... on another site... dated Oct. 14th.

Thanks 4 the replies.

Gl on the felts...
 
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Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyChips4U View Post
Everyone who said, "new playa", are most probably right... "new" as to PokerStars.

I managed to find a single result... on another site... dated Oct. 14th.

Thanks 4 the replies.

Gl on the felts...
Managed to find yourself a (PS) virgin and got screwed.
You are living the dream Easy.


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