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2nl zoom call or fold small river bet? - Mon Nov 04, 2013, 03:12 AM
Praydk's Avatar
Since: Mar 2012
Posts: 504

villain 26/9 AF R 4 (37)
that river bet is always value right?
Im struggling with the low price thing, should I always fold this?
Mon Nov 04, 2013, 03:28 AM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
How many Kx do you really think he has in his range?

All hearts and straights miss, so that means that unless he did spike a random K, we still have the best hand.

He could be betting a hand like AT for value, and given the price we are getting (he needs to be value betting worse a low % of the time to make a profitable call), I'd be calling here.
Mon Nov 04, 2013, 04:37 AM
geoVARTA's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,306
Hi Praydk,

I agree with birdayy, there are not too many Kx hands that would call flop and turn; Khxh (2-3 combos at best) and I am not too worried to see an 8x because they would have raised it OTF or OTT. The only slow played hands would be TT or 88 (4 combos).
I think we can take different river lines against different villains. But our flop/turn sizing kind of bloats the pot a bit and would leave us with a hard river b/f spot; what I'm trying to say is that sometimes I would bet the river, and sometimes x/c depending on villain. If we think villain will bet his missed draws when checked to then we need to be x/c; if we think he will check back Tx and not bluff the river with his missed draws then we should be betting small to get a call from Tx, JJ.

Though villains sizing is suspicious, it could also be a thin value bet or some weird bluff. Point is, we only need to be good roughly 20% here to make the call. So that and the board has missed draws I am calling too.
Mon Nov 04, 2013, 12:44 PM
spand42's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,496
I agree with the others. I think you played the hand pretty well on all streets. If you think the villain is a bad player and might call with an underpair or a ten, then I'd definitely value bet. Otherwise the check-call is fine.
Thu Nov 07, 2013, 05:25 AM
Byamba-Erden's Avatar
Since: Nov 2013
Posts: 3
I think we can take different river lines against different villains

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