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2nl zoom TP+NFD - Tue Nov 05, 2013, 09:09 AM
Praydk's Avatar
Since: Mar 2012
Posts: 504

villain 24/22
AF 4.6/3/3.5
in situations like this, when you have top pair + flush draw, what would be the optimal play?
I just called otf because I have a value hand, and don't want to get called by better aces and flush draws only, I wanted to keep air in too, in case he catches something and might pay one more bet of or bluff when the third heart comes.
Is my train of thought correct?
Tue Nov 05, 2013, 10:06 AM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
Fold pre.

As played there are arguments for calling or check/raising. Since we are up against a UTG open check/calling is ok, though if it was a CO open i'd prefer check/raising because they'd have more suited connectors in their range which could connect with this flop.

I think overbetting $0.60 OTR would be a cool play to get us off a chop because he pretty much never has a flush or a 6.
Tue Nov 05, 2013, 10:29 AM
spand42's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,496
I would fold this Preflop - A8 is going to get you into lots of trouble against a normal UTG open's range.

I like the check-call on the flop, a donkbet is going to get raised quite often and you would probably have to fold. A check-raise is possible, but villain probably won't go away with AK or AQ and if a brick comes on the turn, you might have to face an uncomfortably large bet.
Tue Nov 05, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,487
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Hi pray,

A8 does not play well out of position without the initiative... both 3-betting or folding are better here than calling as I'm not sure how we are going to make this profitable with just a call. 3-betting would be a resteal vs. a tag but since this guy is opening UTG I would give him credit for not stealing much here and simply fold.

On the flop I think check-calling is the clear correct play... a check-raise will only fold out the hands we're already beating (non-ace holdings) and get continued action from hands that have good equity against us (bigger aces). The exception to that would be a hand like the K high flush draw, which won't fold to a check-raise, but that's only 1 or 2 card combos and if he makes it we'll stack him all the time anyway so it's not a big factor.

As played I also like a big river bet, as we can reasonably hold a 6 or diamonds and he basically never can with the slight possible exception being if he opens 66 UTG. An overbet of .50-.60c should work well here to get him off chops and it's essentially risk free since he'll be playing the board about 99% of the time here.

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