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5 NL zoom 6max - 250bb 9Ts standard call against squeeze IP? - Wed Nov 06, 2013, 01:17 PM
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MP2: 5 hands, 20/0/0
BB: 4 hands, 50/25/33

Is this correct: You need 20x against regular and a bit less (10x-15x) against funny ones?

Did I make a correct call, given it was a 3 bet pot? (Imo, it should be just the same, even better because he has even stronger range.)

I needed to call 0.65, potentially winning 13.27 = 20x


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Button ($5.07)
SB ($2.30)
BB ($12.85)
UTG ($4.16)
MP ($10.21)
Hero (CO) ($12.92)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 10
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65

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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 03:48 AM
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I make this sort of call of the time, whether it is correct though is another matter...

I guess a lot depends on the opponent type, if you think you might be able to get three streets of value when you hit a decent hand or if you think he will just shut down when he whiffs on a T87 flop for example.
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 05:33 AM
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Hi braveslice!

I like calling this 3bet. Firstly, you and the bb are quite deep. You are getting good implied odds. Moreover, you have position on the villain. Your hand plays quite well postflop. And the villain's range might be fairly wide since he might be trying to squeeze here. (You don't have enough stats to read anything into them yet.)

The rule of 20 is an excellent guideline but it is not set in stone. It varies a bit based on several factors such as how comfortable are you playing 3b pots post flop, your read/notes on villain, position and playability of your hand.

Everything looks to be optimal here for calling and seeing the flop. Good Call

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 06:49 AM
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Good you found it good.

I'm trying to widen my calling range, it's surprisingly hard task to do when so long I have been trying to tighten it. The game generally seems so tight that TPTK gives you hardly ever even medium sized pot, maybe monsters do the trick.

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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 07:37 AM
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What's the rule of 20?
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spand42 View Post
What's the rule of 20?
Arty wrote a whole series of good blogs covering how to beat the micros. Here is a link to the post he made regarding the rule of 20. Basically it discusses implied odds needed to call pf with speculative hands.

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/blo...ule-of-Call-20

Roland GTX
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 08:27 AM
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Hey brave [& Greg],

I agree with Greg... the key for me when playing suited connectors is to make sure we have position on the PFR and / or we are closing the action i.e. in the blinds [BB] because when we hit, especially in m/w or 3bet pots... these hands can prove to be very profitable.

Example 1. 5NL Zoom (6 max) [CO] Vs SB in 3bet pot [IP]

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...437_D7692B34D8

Example 2. 5NL Zoom (6 max) [BB] Vs PFR [MP]

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...015_C6BCCD6A75

What was the outcome of your hand?

GL at the tables.

Tony [Prodigy237]
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013, 09:49 PM
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Nice wins!

Flop was something like (but not exactly) Kd6c5c - folded to CB.
 

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