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5NL Zoom (6 max) - AKo in 3bet pot Vs Virtual 'All in' OTR - Fri Nov 08, 2013, 07:27 AM
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Background:

Hero: 15/11/2 (77 hands)
Villain: 26/15/0 (66 hands)

Notes on Villain: Called 3bet IP with AQo, 88 & 4bet with AA

Standard 3bet with AKo p/f... Hit top TP OTF, so opt to cbet to protect Vs draws. Villain calls. Nasty card OTT, so decided to make a half pot bet... & b/folding to a raise. Villain calls again. River is a brick. I opted to 'x' for pot control. Villain makes a pot size bet... Hero???

My thoughts:

Hands that beat us OTR include: pps 77, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA & Tx combos that may call 3bet p/f e.g. AT, KTs, QTs, JTs poss T9s. I think we can discount QQ+ as would expect Villain to 4bet p/f & Villain to raise OTT with all but 77, which leaves TP hands / missed draws?

Questions:

1. Do you agree with the the way I played the hand / bet sizing?
2. Do you agree with my analysis & what range would you put Villain on?
3. Is it a x/f or x/c OTR?

Welcome your thoughts / comments.

Tony [Prodigy237]

Last edited by Prodigy237; Sat Nov 09, 2013 at 07:04 AM.. Reason: Added
 
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Fri Nov 08, 2013, 08:03 AM
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Check the turn.

If he checks behind, value bet the river.

If he bets the turn (big enough that boat mining isn't priced in), fold.

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Fri Nov 08, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Hi Prodigy,

It's a tricky spot for sure... I would probably check the turn and fold to a big bet. I don't see how he can call us on the turn with AQ or worse. It's also hard to see too many club draws in his range as we hold the Kc. He is probably not betting QQ or JJ for the same reasons we don't bet AK. 77 is no concern, I can't imagine he would call the flop with this holding.

Is he capable of turning AQ into a bluff? If he is, good on him, position wins this pot from me then. I doubt it at 5NL as most players at this level don't have this tool in their tool belt I think, nor would they expect you to fold AK or sets despite the scary board.


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Sat Nov 09, 2013, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
Hi Prodigy,

It's a tricky spot for sure... I would probably check the turn and fold to a big bet. I don't see how he can call us on the turn with AQ or worse. It's also hard to see too many club draws in his range as we hold the Kc. He is probably not betting QQ or JJ for the same reasons we don't bet AK. 77 is no concern, I can't imagine he would call the flop with this holding.

Is he capable of turning AQ into a bluff? If he is, good on him, position wins this pot from me then. I doubt it at 5NL as most players at this level don't have this tool in their tool belt I think, nor would they expect you to fold AK or sets despite the scary board.
Hi Dave & birdayy,

I was in two minds whether to check or bet OTT, but decided rightly or wrongly that I would gain more information by betting. I thought Villain would raise his strong hands e.g. QQ OTF & Tx hands OTT, although I agree JJ would probably call OTT for same reason [... which tbh I didn't consider at the time] & therefore struggled to give him credit for set / straight so opted to make the call OTR.

Here's how the hand played out.



Tony [Prodigy237]

Last edited by Prodigy237; Sat Nov 09, 2013 at 07:07 AM.. Reason: Added
 

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