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What did I do wrong?? - Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:41 PM
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Obviously I had the nut starting hand - but misplayed it.

Any help with where I went wrong would be greatly appreciated.



http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...067_E4DE882459

Maybe effsea has given me some bad advice????



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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:46 PM
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They weren't suited Ed, HTH.


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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:54 PM
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They weren't suited Ed, HTH.
I thought if they were suited it was like cheating - so I only ever play them offsuits.

Gotta give the other peeps a chance right?

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Ok dude.....hiccup

For Starters........

I only play 27o after a few.....which is always

I know the dealer.....which helps only when l'm buying......the guys a drunk,

But in this case......not sure he was getting away from this.....but I would have shoved after the flop.

Please refer to effsea's poker rule #1

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:35 PM
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Thanks effsea

I see where I went wrong

I tried again and failed

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...901_E515F4942D

then I realised -

I had 'had a few' but it was far too few.

So I had a few more - its gotta work next time right?



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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:44 PM
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ok, l see your problem now.......

Your playing your hand right........like by what the book/training tells you.....hiccup

So when playing 27o......play them the wrong way......hiccup,

Hope this helps man....if not....drink more

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 02:48 PM
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Dam......what was l thinking?....lol,

I know a guy....hiccup....that knows what to do

John....Please take over....thx

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:17 PM
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Maybe I am getting the hang of it?

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...432_4A96856BD0



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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 03:29 PM
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Defo playing 2-7 has helped my game.

Won this tourney anyways. All good.

Thx to coach effsea for his brilliant wisdom.

Hiccup!

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:37 PM
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Hey Ed!

Here's the way I'd go about it (not that I'd ever play 27)

Preflop from the SB, I either want to fold or raise. For a raise, I'd want to make a standard raise (to between 3X the previous bet and a pot-sized raise). I would not limp preflop since I'm OOP.

Once again, on the flop, if I lead, I need to make it look like a made hand. A standard bet with 3 opps is 3/4 pot, so this is what I need to bet. I cannot bet less and give them the odds to call me.

The same thing on the turn. Against one opp, a standard bet sizing is 1/2 pot, so that is what I'd bet.. no more, no less.

If they call both the flop and turn, I'm check/folding the river.

The key with any hand that I'd want to bluff with... I have to make the exact same bets as the hand that I want to represent. Here, preflop says weakness, flop says weakness, turn says strong and then a river shove is a polarizing bet. The bets don't tell a consistent story.

Good luck at the tables.

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:46 PM
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Yahoo Congrats Ed

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 06:00 PM
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Hey Ed!

Here's the way I'd go about it (not that I'd ever play 27)

Preflop from the SB, I either want to fold or raise. For a raise, I'd want to make a standard raise (to between 3X the previous bet and a pot-sized raise). I would not limp preflop since I'm OOP.

Once again, on the flop, if I lead, I need to make it look like a made hand. A standard bet with 3 opps is 3/4 pot, so this is what I need to bet. I cannot bet less and give them the odds to call me.

The same thing on the turn. Against one opp, a standard bet sizing is 1/2 pot, so that is what I'd bet.. no more, no less.

If they call both the flop and turn, I'm check/folding the river.

The key with any hand that I'd want to bluff with... I have to make the exact same bets as the hand that I want to represent. Here, preflop says weakness, flop says weakness, turn says strong and then a river shove is a polarizing bet. The bets don't tell a consistent story.

Good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)
Preflop (in the original hand in 1st post) I called in the SB.

Yes this does not show strength - I would say it mostly smacks of a marginal hand like suited cards, connected cards, small pairs or Ace X

The flop is all diamonds and I made a decent sized open 360 into 520.

I was repping a made flopped diamond flush or flush draw - I think reasonable holdings (any two Ds or AdX) that I might call the SB and hit here - - and bet strong again on the fourth diamond turn.

Thoughht it would be hard for a non D hand to call.

I think post flop my 'story' is pretty consistent with the few real holdings I am repping.

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