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250bb Deep River c/r bluff - Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:04 AM
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Stats - VPIP: 26, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.1, Hands: 98



Villain is a weak reg who plays a mixture of 16nl/25nl/10nl deep.

Think defending is fine given the price we are getting w/ antes.

We flop a double gutter so I pretty standard c/c.

Turn doesn't change much except bring in a flush draw. I could also check/raise here and fire most rivers but I don't think I have too much fold equity.

River completes the BD flush and pairs the board. I think I have enough eights and backdoor flushes in my range that I can raise this for value, and I believe he will be bet/folding a large proportion of his range (Ax mainly).

Thoughts?
 
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Sun Nov 17, 2013, 08:54 PM
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Hi birdayy,

I wouldn't mind c/r right on the flop, it's a nice spot to semi-bluff as the board looks dry so we should get credit for stronger hands, and it's very hard for him to continue without at least an ace. And with this depth of money, if he 3-bets the flop we should be able to profitably call and see the turn with implied odds in most cases.

As for the river, I don't agree that you have 8's in your range, unless you are routinely check/calling 2 streets with 3rd pair in spots like this? Back door flushes work largely because you can have AcXc taking this line, or hands like KcQc etc, peeling the flop with a gutter and picking up the FD on the turn. Ultimately I don't think this is a great spot to go for a bluff check/raise, as I think a weak reg checks down the river a lot here with hands like AQ.


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Mon Nov 18, 2013, 09:02 AM
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I didn't consider check/raising (and possible calling a flop 3b). Interesting line.

I think I could have 2 pair hands with an 8 in it. A8s, T8s etc are probably in my range given the price I am getting pre.

I doubt even weak regs (i meant in terms of skill, not passiveness) check back hands like AQ here but I guess it is a possibility.

Could be wrong though...
 
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Mon Nov 18, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by birdayy View Post
I think I could have 2 pair hands with an 8 in it. A8s, T8s etc are probably in my range given the price I am getting pre.
I assumed you are not check/calling 2 streets with 2 pair+


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