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bhoylegends December 6 max challenge - Sat Nov 30, 2013, 05:27 AM
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For the last month of the year I am going to conduct a small challenge to keep my motivation up and also to test myself at 6 max while also continuing my regular game of 10NL FR.

I've played about 5,500 hands over the last week as a tester and come out of it with about $30 profit so I am hopeful that I can turn a profit at this for the month.

Obviously within the time constraint of a month I probably won't be able to progress to 10NL but if I reach $40 I will move up to 5NL. I will move back down to 2NL at $20. This is fairly aggressive I feel but I am willing to be aggressive with this challenge and see how I do.

I feel 6 max will be a nice change from my current games. While I have done well so far at my current games, albeit I have hit the skids the last two days, I want to broaden my game a little.

I'll endeavour to post big hands here along with graphs each day I play. I aim to play at least 20,000 hands for the period of the challenge.
 
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Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:02 PM
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Good luck with this Brendan! If you manage to crush 6-max, you might find you never go back to nit-ring.


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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 05:31 AM
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Good luck!

6Max means you play more pots and have to play more often out of the blinds and against the blinds, so any skill advantage you might have will be more noticable at 6Max than at FR.

Just a note of caution though - don't get too depressed/elated with a 20K sample size. These are two of the more dramatic swings I've had recetnly at 10NL 6Max

Over a 7K hand spell, I recently had a 17 buy-in downswing but fortunately I've also had a 12K hand spell with a 13 buy in upswing. Fortunately my baseline is usually profitable but variance is a bitch!
 
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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 12:06 PM
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Day 1 completed.

Profit/Loss: $8.05
Cumulative: $8.05



As can be seen by the graph it looked like being a losing day for quite a while. I would get good hands but they would be second best hands for the most part. Thankfully it turned it self around a bit. I got some monster hands and got paid for them.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...728_81C7C70BE5

Fairly standard hand for the most part, open with 77 from the button, flop a set. Let the donkbet go without rasing on the fairly dry board. Raise his cbet on the turn and overbet shove on the river. Wouldnt play this the same way any higher than 2NL but the overbet shove on the river gets called so often at 2NL.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...023_3829298707

Villain slowplays his set until the point he is behind on the hand and then donkbets river and calls off my shove.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...059_41B5DCA7B6

Flop a set with AA on a AxK board against someone who had minraised. Felt pretty confident that I was good at all points in the hand though I was surprised by his actual hand.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...101_5687D628B8

Flop well with QQ. Happy to get it in though I was worried a little about set over set but he could easily have had KK too so had to get it in.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...130_4DC9C5EE69

4x4 = Nice pot.

All in all I am pretty happy with the results here. I stole to an insane degree. 40% of my hands from steal positions were played and I got away with it for the most part. To compensate for this I lowered my cbet % when I missed.

Good start.
 
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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 12:10 PM
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glgl B!!


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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 12:23 PM
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Good luck with this Brendan! If you manage to crush 6-max, you might find you never go back to nit-ring.
Thanks Arty. I dunno about nit-ring, it seems pretty loose at 10NL, been stacked by some absurd holdings in the last few days.
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Good luck!

6Max means you play more pots and have to play more often out of the blinds and against the blinds, so any skill advantage you might have will be more noticable at 6Max than at FR.

Just a note of caution though - don't get too depressed/elated with a 20K sample size. These are two of the more dramatic swings I've had recetnly at 10NL 6Max

Over a 7K hand spell, I recently had a 17 buy-in downswing but fortunately I've also had a 12K hand spell with a 13 buy in upswing. Fortunately my baseline is usually profitable but variance is a bitch!
Yeah, 20k is a small amount, but its at the bottom end of what I think I can play. I played more than 2000 today alone and got off to a good start. I'm used to playing 10NL 9 max and have been successful there so far but the variance is indeed a bitch.
 
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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 07:14 PM
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Good results on day 1.
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http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...101_5687D628B8

Flop well with QQ. Happy to get it in though I was worried a little about set over set but he could easily have had KK too so had to get it in.
In general, you can 4-bet QQ and get it in at 6-max. Just calling the 3-bet misses value in my opinion. One of the major adjustments I made when switching from FR to 6-max was altering my pre-flop stack off range. At 2NL 6-max, you'll often find players getting it in with ATs or TT (and shorties stack off even lighter), so QQ becomes a clear 4-bet for value in most scenarios.


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Sun Dec 01, 2013, 08:36 PM
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For the last month of the year I am going to conduct a small challenge to keep my motivation up and also to test myself at 6 max while also continuing my regular game of 10NL FR.

I've played about 5,500 hands over the last week as a tester and come out of it with about $30 profit so I am hopeful that I can turn a profit at this for the month.

Obviously within the time constraint of a month I probably won't be able to progress to 10NL but if I reach $40 I will move up to 5NL. I will move back down to 2NL at $20. This is fairly aggressive I feel but I am willing to be aggressive with this challenge and see how I do.

I feel 6 max will be a nice change from my current games. While I have done well so far at my current games, albeit I have hit the skids the last two days, I want to broaden my game a little.

I'll endeavour to post big hands here along with graphs each day I play. I aim to play at least 20,000 hands for the period of the challenge.

glgl make it a good chrimbo
 
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Mon Dec 02, 2013, 02:52 AM
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Good results on day 1.

In general, you can 4-bet QQ and get it in at 6-max. Just calling the 3-bet misses value in my opinion. One of the major adjustments I made when switching from FR to 6-max was altering my pre-flop stack off range. At 2NL 6-max, you'll often find players getting it in with ATs or TT (and shorties stack off even lighter), so QQ becomes a clear 4-bet for value in most scenarios.
I have been both getting it in and flatting 3bets with QQ so far and I agree that the stack off ranges are much wider.

I don't recall what was in my head when I played that hand but obv. happy with the end result. Given the stinging hangover I had it was a surprise to get such good results. On day 2 of my latest self-induced misery I will maybe take a day off but will see how I feel later.
 
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Mon Dec 02, 2013, 02:22 PM
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Day 2 Completed.

Daily Profit/Loss: $5.48
Cumulative: £13.53
Hands played: 2837

Daily Graph:



Cumulative:



Day two completed and it was another decent day results wise. Mangled some hands but still did enough to get a positive day out of it.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...424_195A4A7DB7

I don't really like how I played this hand at all. I should have looked to get it in on the flop if possible and I think the river raise was dodgy. I felt flushes were a decent part of his range on this board though along with some overpairs and singleton clubs KcX and QxX.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...518_79C642C778

Pretty standard I think. Raise with a pair, cbet with an overpair, turn a FH and the river gives a lot of Ax hands a reason to call.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...572_F508AEF351

Big pot but would have liked a river call.

Those are the three biggest pots but there were some other nice ones and some not so nice results.

Enjoying the variety this 6 max is bringing.
 
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Mon Dec 02, 2013, 06:45 PM
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Hand 1 flopped flushes are usually best to play quick so if another club comes don't lose action. Suppose the river raise worked out ok but generally unless total fish they are going to fold flushes and call with houses.
Hands 2 and 3 standard.
Thought you were playing 5NL to start with? Must have misread.
Welcome to 6max.
 
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Mon Dec 02, 2013, 11:04 PM
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gl bhoy no doubt you'll crush it
 
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Tue Dec 03, 2013, 05:20 AM
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Hand 1 flopped flushes are usually best to play quick so if another club comes don't lose action. Suppose the river raise worked out ok but generally unless total fish they are going to fold flushes and call with houses.
Hands 2 and 3 standard.
Thought you were playing 5NL to start with? Must have misread.
Welcome to 6max.
Yeah, like I said in my post above, I don't like how I played it. I thought flush hands made more sense on that board than FH hands. There are some Jx and 8x combinations he can be in there with but not too many. If he he had the other two j's or 8's that would have made more sense to me.

As for starting at 5nl, that was never in my plans:

'...if I reach $40 I will move up to 5NL...'

I have some way to go yet before I play 5nl.

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gl bhoy no doubt you'll crush it
Thanks birdayy - I will certainly try to.
 
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Tue Dec 03, 2013, 09:12 AM
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progress to 10NL but if I reach $40
Told you I misread it didn't see the but
 
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Tue Dec 03, 2013, 02:37 PM
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Day 3 Completed.

Daily Profit/Loss: $7.10
Cumulative: £20.63
Hands played: 3832

Daily Graph:



Cumulative:



Boom player is down for maintenance at the minute so I will try and upload some hands when it is back up. It was a good session though with some good volume for a quick session.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2013, 05:10 AM
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Some hands from yesterday now that Boom is back up:

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...240_53C08ADD4A

QQ UTG where I raise and get 3bet shoved on. It looked like a weak move and it was a weak move and thankfully I held.

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...241_9A69CAABFE

I think it is fair to say that villain played this hand in a non-standard fashion. I mean really, WTF?

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...243_DDC2564CF8

This one, villain doesn't do a tonne wrong but I out flop him, my hand holds.

There was a huge hand at the end of the session which wouldn't upload to Boom but I will post the history tonight. It was the hand that saw the graph take a vertical leap at the end as it was the very last hand of the session.

Last edited by bhoylegend; Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 05:12 AM..
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2013, 10:08 AM
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Hand 1 if a reg does this almost always aces otherwise usually weak.
Hand 2 free money 2nl
Hand 3 if nothing higher than q comes I'm almost always getting in with small stack qq+. In his position id 4 bet don't want to be oop against 2 players, even with aa, asking to get outflopped.

See you on 5NL soon although I'm hoping to go back up to 10nl soon myself. gl bhoy.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2013, 11:07 AM
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Good Luck Bhoy...

PH.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:11 PM
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Hand 1 if a reg does this almost always aces otherwise usually weak.
Hand 2 free money 2nl
Hand 3 if nothing higher than q comes I'm almost always getting in with small stack qq+. In his position id 4 bet don't want to be oop against 2 players, even with aa, asking to get outflopped.

See you on 5NL soon although I'm hoping to go back up to 10nl soon myself. gl bhoy.
Agreed, when a reg takes the action it looks like he wants to look weak, when a rec takes the action it generally is weak or AK, cause they cant play AK properly.
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Good Luck Bhoy...

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Thanks PH
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:25 PM
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Day 4 completed:

Daily Profit/Loss: $2.15
Cumulative: £22.78
Hands played: 4180

The graph hasnt changed a lot at all because the session was a small winning one and it didnt last too long so I will leave it out for tonight so as not to slow down loading times on the thread too much for anyone who doesnt have great connection speed and is taking an interest.

I will however post some hands.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...641_1D9383A846

JJ on the button, BB 3bet shoves on me, as he is a short stacker I am more than happy to make the call and take my chances with being up against an overpair, AK/AQ/AJ type hands or being ahead of an underpair. I got it in good but didnt hold. Cest la vie.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...692_AF2D8FAB41

KK, played standardly for me, I bet it aggressively and when villain donk shoves the river I am calling without too much thought about it. Having seen now the random crap that people are showing up with its going to take a pretty good read to lay down a big hand. I will lose some but I think I will win a lot too.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...753_184AAB9121

AQs, OOP against a 3bet and make the call, flop the nut flush draw on a paired board and make the decision to go with it and shove. The rest is history. I felt it was the right move and that I had good equity in the hand against a lot of holdings.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...807_728EC3CBA3

77, raise from EP and a caller so I call from the SB, flop a set and lead out on a monotone board. Turn gives me a FH. River is pretty much a dream card as it brings in the flush. Villain can have something like AdJx and a lot of other hands that are worse than mine but which improved on the river. Overbet shove? Why not. At 2NL you get called by worse a lot of the time.
 

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