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2nl FR Zoom - Tue Dec 03, 2013, 04:16 PM
pullin1988's Avatar
Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 717
Hi guys,

I looking for two analyses on this one.

One from the Hero's point of view, and villains.

This was my very first encounter with villain, so I haven't seen him play any hands.

Villain was probably putting me on a premiums like AK+, KK+.
Now I am trying to think why what he did could be bad or good. I am trying not to results orientated. Any help would be much appreciated.

I called his raise on the flop even though I thought he may have made a set with pocket Ks,

Although, if I treated villain as the average nit on 2nl zoom with no reads, then I would have thought his range is AK+, KK+ possibly QQ to widen the range a little more.

I felt I will still be ahead against that range, even when the flop comes up with a K, but when I get raised, then his range I guess changes to a made set.

Do you guys think I should have bet smaller on the flop, and then folded to raise?

Then again at 2nl, although I can't say for sure, you many get many villains stacking off with AK on the flop because the pot has got so big; therefore in situations like this, it might be profitable in the long run to call this raise.



Last edited by pullin1988; Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 04:36 PM.. Reason: further thoughts
Tue Dec 03, 2013, 09:07 PM
birdayy's Avatar
Since: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,179
Your 4b sizing is ok given villain made a retarded 3b.

Flop is kinda meh. I'd size your cbet a little smaller but i don't think i'm ever folding this flop.
Tue Dec 03, 2013, 09:21 PM
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Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,316
Pre-flop is standard. Post-flop, half pot is more standard, due to the low SPR. (Villain has 2 PSBs in his stack, so you can commit to getting all in on the turn).
I can't fold an overpair with the SPR being so low. Villain is jamming AK and KK (plus JJ if he 3-bet/calls with that pre-flop), because he's similarly pot-committed. You're losing to 3 combos of top set (but still have 10% suckout value, hehe) and you beat 6 combos of AK. Against a range of AK/KK, you have 62% equity, so you have to call. If villain has JJ in his range, you're flipping, and pot odds mean you only need to win 19% of the time.

In general terms, just don't fold big overpairs in 3-bet pots, let alone 4-bet pots, if effective stack is 100bb at the start.

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Tue Dec 03, 2013, 11:23 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
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Hi pullin,

Don't over think this spot imo... villain is not quite full stacked and it's a 4b pot, so the SPR is less than 2. You should have a plan for your hand when you 4-bet him, my plan would look like this:

-get it in pre to a 5b
-if called, get it in post flop

Since the board is fairly wet, I like your c-bet although agree it could be a bit smaller, and am not folding to a shove ever here, I think it would be a pretty large mistake personally to fold now in this big a pot. We are losing to KK/JJ and are beating AK/QQ/AdQd

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