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Hyper Turbo 1-Table SNG Trainer? - Sat Dec 07, 2013, 12:55 PM
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I notice when I look through the live trainers there are none that specialize in 1-table Hyper SNG arah010 is the closest but he does 90mans

I wish for more content for this type of game. There are old videos of Grayson "Spacegravy" Physioc but can we get new videos on this like you do for every other game?
 
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Sat Dec 07, 2013, 01:24 PM
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Sun Dec 08, 2013, 01:37 PM
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Will do
 
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hyper's - Wed Apr 16, 2014, 05:04 PM
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It is basically ignored they keep advertising Spacegravy's video but they are quite old now, you think they would want people to play these as the FPP record holder is Jorj95 "George Lind iii". He is easy in the top 3 if not the top player of these, so that would be great but i hear the Hyper reg player's do not want to show other players as the edge's are very small in these in otherwords a little practice and anyone can play these with some type of success.


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Suggestions Killeraxa89 - Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:55 PM
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Greetings,

Ahar isn't teaching for PSO anymore but I take private lessons with Dave 'TheLangolier' Roemer who can teach nearly ANYTHING and I would think, but don't know, that Gareth 'GarethC23' is in the same category. I don't know about Chris 'ChewMe'. It's not a cheap investment but even with distinct areas to work on, my game has soared with private lessons from Dave.

I would also like to see more on Sit & Goes, although Zoom is my game.

May all your aspirations come to fruition.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:42 AM
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My 2cents,

Hyper turbos are a very difficult game to beat. It is variance, stupid recreational player vs oh I know shove fold with <12bb + ICM what? Do we need to understand all that stuff, yes?

Heads-Up hyper with a 54% win rate you beat the rake and crush the game "Isaac Haxton" probably playing at higher stakes than we will ever try. My small sample at $1.50 itm 53% is a 95c profit.

What I'm trying to say is you need to be bankrolled at least 500x buy-in and time wise to be a competent multi table player.

Being a 6-max cash player trying to make a fit with the 6-max single table hypers "read above" you need to fade a field of micro players just to get Heads-Up and a 50% 2nd place is not good enough you need to be a winning 1st place player.

Ok I lose at hypers. But think getting better at a similar game 6-max single table turbos. We start with 75bb rather than 25bb in the hypers.

Then you need to look at, or sort out your Heads-Up play if you can't win a turbo game.
 
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Sat Apr 19, 2014, 12:00 PM
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Hey all,

1 table hypers are very different from 90 mans or cash games, etc. We don't have anyone on the live training team who plays these, and thus we have not coached on them. We are not planning on adding any new trainers in the immediate future. If one of the trainers should take up this format, no doubt they would share the experience with some coaching sessions on it as well. I'm sorry we don't have more resource here for this, but we simply can't teach every single game and every single format, as none of us is versed in everything.

My advice for those interested in learning 1 table hypers, is to study ICM in depth so you get a good intuition about shoving and call off ranges. Although I don't have experience personally in 1 table hypers, I would guess that if you aren't familiar with ICM decisions to some extent, you have little chance to win in the long term.


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Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:03 PM
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All Single Table Tourney's are a near enough solved game ie. start tight, loosen up and then shove/ fold.

The problem is many players know this and edges have become much smaller. I was a decent (rock) STT player 5 years ago and I know I'm 100% a better player now and my profits are lower. I touched upon this on my blog that table selection is the single most important thing you can do to improve your winrate. I think this is the single best thing you can do to help your game.

I've maybe played 1,000 Hypers on Stars and made a small profit but the swings are huge. The best players in these have no more than + a few % so you are really only playing for the VPPs.

I'd check out Sharkscope's Leaderboards to find the best players at your level and then shadow them and see what they play and in what position while taking notes. When you do play, avoid these players and tweak on what their doing.

I'd also consider (although I don't myself) purchasing an ICM calculator for your shove/ fold spots.

It would be hard for PSO to have a specialist in every field and at every stakes. It's much better anyway to question and prod the trainers than take their word verbatim. Rememeber the trainers glean info from the questions you ask as what you learn from them


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Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:07 PM
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The good thing is that the ICM decisions you make will be of benefit for all forms of NL poker so for that reason I'd suggest playing a few


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Variance in Hypers? - Mon Apr 28, 2014, 06:35 AM
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Hi guys,

While I agree that short-handed Hypers are an extremely tough format (read: reg-infested), I must take issue with the assertion that the variance is huge.

While this is true in the short-term, in the long-term they are amongst the lower-variance formats.

This is because the games are over very quickly. As you can reach the long-run infinitely quicker than in more traditional formats, and player who has an edge in these games will find them very favourable in terms of variance.

My advice for my students when starting out at the Hypers is this: work incredibly hard at your ICM homework, work incredibly hard at your HU play (and I don't just mean studying Nash charts!), and work incredibly hard at your tilt management. Those who adhere to this homework strategy beat the Hypers at a strong winrate and do so consistently due to the low-variance nature.

All the best,

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Mon Apr 28, 2014, 10:00 AM
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My advice for my students when starting out at the Hypers is this: work incredibly hard at your ICM homework, work incredibly hard at your HU play (and I don't just mean studying Nash charts!), and work incredibly hard at your tilt management. Those who adhere to this homework strategy beat the Hypers at a strong winrate and do so consistently due to the low-variance nature.

All the best,

Casy151
Top notch advice imo, thanks Casy!


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