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VIP calculator - Sun Dec 15, 2013, 07:45 PM
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Is there a serious grinder(cash) to tell me how many VPPs does he earn by playing X tables for Y hours at a certain stake?

I am asking because the results that the VIP calc displays is way... way off.
I know that its difficult to know how many VPPs exactly someone earns because some play tighter or looser, but the points are about 1/4 to 1/5 of the calculator's results.
Thats some serious difference !
 
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Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:58 PM
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What exactly do you want to know
At what stake?
6max or FR?
Zoom or not?
NLHE, Omaha?
 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 03:58 AM
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:46 AM
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In my experience, which isn't a lot, the vip-calculator is spot on...
 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 08:04 AM
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Very interesting thread, I never actually considered how the VIP Calculator correlated with my play.

At 25NL 6Max Zoom over 28 hours of play, my average VPP/hour is 70.27, whereas the calculator would have it as 123 VPP/hour.

While I'm not the loosest guy around I'm far from a nit - I wonder what the calculator bases these numbers on?
 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by spand42 View Post
At 25NL 6Max Zoom over 28 hours of play, my average VPP/hour is 70.27, whereas the calculator would have it as 123 VPP/hour.
Mine was 63.03 for 25NL 6Max Zoom and I play tight
That's over 87,972 hands

I remember that they have change the rake on January 1st 2013, but they never changed their formulas for the calculations

Edit:
I than looked at the # hands vs. Vpp's and I was at 0.097963 per hands (they have it at 0.1236)
At Zoom you can play 1,000 hands per hour, therefore I would be at 98 Vpp's per hour and they have it at 124 and I play tight, so kind of makes sense
When using the calculator, don't use the hours but the number of hands

I would explain the discrepancy with stopping the game so I can take notes or watch the hand play out

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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:01 AM
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I too find the calculator is a little off. I'd say I make about 85-90% of VPPs it says I should, but I am on the tighter side. Remember the calculator is just a guide and based on the average so it's not going to be spot on for everyone.



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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
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I'd say I make about 85-90% of VPPs it says I should
If you earn that much, you have nothing to complain about
I earn about 25% of what it says
 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 12:18 PM
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Is there allready a vip calculator? I was doing it in excel lol
I don't know about other stakes but for 5nl the calculator's VPP/Day on step 2 is way too high

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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:19 PM
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I keep track of my own VPP gaining in excel - the VIP Calculator is supposed to be used for planning your VIP accrual in the future.
 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Holdem Manager has a VPP stat for past hands played. You can then project based on what you've already earned.

I think it was you Sandtrap? that told me

http://fpppro.com/

was out of date but there's a lot of useful information on that site about setting targets.


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