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Bankroll Builder - Mon Dec 16, 2013, 02:36 PM
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Hello from Bosnia! I would like to apply for this $ 8 bonus if it is possible. Im new in pso and pokerstars. I never made eny deposit and I successfully passed the quiz today. So I hope the best.



Here is one aggressive early position beting with monster pocket pair and pot winning after the flop.

 
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 05:43 PM
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Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:55 PM
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Hi ptln88,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:23 AM
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I had here realy specific situation. I tried to be tricky here and to made bigger pot because I had tree of a kind and a dicent kicker. Player 2 raised me preflop and I thought he is pocket pair or big aces. But what happend he was k5 and he got flush on the river. Should I play more aggressive in these situations and make them fold and dont put my self in trouble or this is good played and he got lucky on the river?
 
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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:53 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:37 AM
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Hi ptln88!

Trying to make plays that are out of character normally go into 'fancy play syndrome' and are ones that I want to avoid. Here's how I'd go about the hand.

With QTo in the SB, when I get a limper in front of me, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper (40 chips). The SB is the position at the table that I want to play the least amount of hands from due to the positional disadvantage that I have postflop. I also want to keep all of my bets and raises standard as this helps to conceal the strength of my hand. Players that make abnormally large or small bets, especially based on their cards are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opponent... something that I want to avoid.

I then get an abnormally large raise to 100. With a marginal at best hand in QT, I need to muck to this large raise as my hand is not strong enough to call here.

If I saw the flop, which I would not, when I see that I hit trip 10's on a board with possible flush and straight draws, I absolutely need to make a standard lead value bet here. The only time I can check is if there is not a single card in the deck that can beat me. Bets postflop need to be sized based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture. With one opp a standard bet is 1/2 pot, so I will bet 105.

The same thing on the turn. I need to make a 1/2 pot value bet.

On the river, I'm going to lead out again and size this bet between 1/3 and 1/2 pot (since I don't have to price out any draws due to all the cards being on the board).

The reason why I don't want to check in this type of situation is that by checking, if the opp checks behind, they get the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I give the opp the correct odds to draw and I do end up losing the hand due to it, it's my own fault that I lose the hand. When I think that I have the best hand, I want to make the opp call a bet where they expect to lose chips on average, as this is how I will gain chips against them in the long run.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Please let us know when you have passed your basics quiz, so we may proceed to the next step!

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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:19 PM
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Congratulations ptln88

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12.16.13 is date of finishing my test. This is a mail I recived when I finished the quiz
 
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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 01:36 PM
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Hi ptln88!

Trying to make plays that are out of character normally go into 'fancy play syndrome' and are ones that I want to avoid. Here's how I'd go about the hand.

With QTo in the SB, when I get a limper in front of me, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper (40 chips). The SB is the position at the table that I want to play the least amount of hands from due to the positional disadvantage that I have postflop. I also want to keep all of my bets and raises standard as this helps to conceal the strength of my hand. Players that make abnormally large or small bets, especially based on their cards are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opponent... something that I want to avoid.

I then get an abnormally large raise to 100. With a marginal at best hand in QT, I need to muck to this large raise as my hand is not strong enough to call here.

If I saw the flop, which I would not, when I see that I hit trip 10's on a board with possible flush and straight draws, I absolutely need to make a standard lead value bet here. The only time I can check is if there is not a single card in the deck that can beat me. Bets postflop need to be sized based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture. With one opp a standard bet is 1/2 pot, so I will bet 105.

The same thing on the turn. I need to make a 1/2 pot value bet.

On the river, I'm going to lead out again and size this bet between 1/3 and 1/2 pot (since I don't have to price out any draws due to all the cards being on the board).

The reason why I don't want to check in this type of situation is that by checking, if the opp checks behind, they get the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I give the opp the correct odds to draw and I do end up losing the hand due to it, it's my own fault that I lose the hand. When I think that I have the best hand, I want to make the opp call a bet where they expect to lose chips on average, as this is how I will gain chips against them in the long run.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

Thanks for this advice. I'll give my best in the future. I have qualified for weekly roumd 2 sunday and I think it is a big progress for me. Im giving my best always. I hope I will progress enough to meet you and beet you once in a tournament
 
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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:51 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:40 AM
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STEP 1.




This is one very interesting hand. I was on a BB and I decided to call more 3 BBs with 84 diamond which I usually fold. Flop wasn't what I expected but I raised small bet to gain some information. On the turn Ad giving me a flush draw. Player 2 raised 6BB and I called. River 3d. Great. Huge win. I dont know why I decided to call this I just hed a good feeling for this hand. I usually avoid this kind of hands to play but it worth a try once in a while. What do you think?
 
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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:45 AM
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STEP 2.

List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

-to bluff
-to gain more value from strong hand
-to protect hand against drow
 
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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers


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Sun Dec 22, 2013, 08:16 PM
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STEP 3. Cash game quiz - PASSED! 10 min ago
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:56 PM
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I didnt recived any mail when I passed cash game quiz. Is it possible that I wasnt loged in when I passed it?
 
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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 07:30 AM
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Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team. We will reply to your thread on December 27th.


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Wed Dec 25, 2013, 01:01 AM
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STEP 1.




This is one very interesting hand. I was on a BB and I decided to call more 3 BBs with 84 diamond which I usually fold. Flop wasn't what I expected but I raised small bet to gain some information. On the turn Ad giving me a flush draw. Player 2 raised 6BB and I called. River 3d. Great. Huge win. I dont know why I decided to call this I just hed a good feeling for this hand. I usually avoid this kind of hands to play but it worth a try once in a while. What do you think?
Hi ptln88!

I strongly suggest folding this hand preflop. It just won't flop well often enough to be profitable in the long run. We can profitably play a wide range of hands in certain situations. However, to do so we would need to have solid reads on the villain. Here you are playing out of position, with a weak hand against two opponents.

As played, just check behnind on the flop. Any time you raise, ask yourself what are you hoping to achieve? Mini-raising into a large pot doesn't help in any way. It doesn't gain value from strong hands like sets. It doesn't work a semi-bluff because it wont get anyone to fold. Making a standard halfpot bet will be better in almost all cases.

Finally, this is from 6-Max, please play only full ring for this promo! Playing anything else will make you ineligible for any remaining buyins.

GL and have fun at the tables!
Roland GTX
 
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Wed Dec 25, 2013, 05:06 AM
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Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team. We will reply to your thread on December 27th.


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Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:21 AM
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Hi ptln88,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables.



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Sun Dec 29, 2013, 03:56 AM
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Thank you for everything I made my first depozit and I got all bonuses. You are all very kind. Cheers
 

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