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Bankroll Builder - Thu Dec 19, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Hello!

I'm new to PokerSchoolOnline and would very much like to participate in the "Bankroll Builder" promotion.

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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:24 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:50 PM
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Hi Smrtez,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:38 AM
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I have completed all 3 designated tasks.



Here I played A9 off-suit because I was a bit steamy due to a big loss earlier, but turned out to play well.
When the flop came, I put the bettor on an A10+ hand, therefore I raised. I didn't really pay much attention to the Villain_6, because he seemed to play very loosely.
When the turn came and everybody checked to me I decided to shove, because there was a possible diamond flush draw and a straight draw. The bet wasn't really too big.

Was that shove a good move?
 
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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:44 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Hi Smrtez!

With A9o, I get three limpers in front of me. Since my hand is not strong enough to make a standard raise with (3BB+1BB for each limper), I need to muck this preflop. Poker is a game where patience is a huge key and I need to be able to muck marginal hands and wait for better situations. If it had folded to me, then I'd make a standard raise, but with limpers in front of me, my hand is not strong enough to do so with.
I also do not want to raise to less than a standard raise, as this can give the opps the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I give them the right odds and end up losing, it's my own fault that I lose the hand.

If I saw the flop (which I would not), when I see that I get top 2 pair, I have an opp make an abnormally small bet, then another opp calls it. Bets postflop need to be sized based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture. With 4 or more opps in the pot, a standard bet is a pot-sized bet and since I want to raise here, I need to make a pot-sized raise, which is to 3200. Once again, I don't want to raise to less than 3200 or I can be giving the opps the correct odds to call.

The turn puts more draws out there and with 3 opps, a standard value bet sizing is now 3/4 pot... BUT... this is the overwhelming majority of my chips, which means that I'll be pot-committed if I make this bet and cannot fold. Due to this, I'm shoving the turn.

The key with this hand though is to muck the marginal hand preflop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:28 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 05:32 AM
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So I haven't passed the quiz yet, but have played an interesting hand.



Here I hold the cowboys.
The flop didn't really look the best, but I still held an over pair, so I decided to play aggressively.
Was this just a cooler or did I not play correctly?
Perhaps I should have checked when the nut straight draw appeared on the turn.

Other than that I have tightened up and it really improved my game. I am already at 4.7$
 
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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers


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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:34 AM
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Hi Smertez,

Thanks for posting this interesting hand

Preflop, you have two limpers in front of you. The standard raise size in this situation would be 3x the BB + 1BB for each limper, which means I would make it $0.10. You want to charge a higher price for people to outdraw you on the flop.

You get 5 callers - not a great outcome.

The flop is fairly coordinated with the JT, but there are no flush draws. I agree with your CBet, but with so many other players still in the hand, I would make it much bigger, even as high as $0.40-$0.45.

The problem with making it 1/2 pot is that if one player calls, each person afterwards is getting excellent odds to draw to whatever draw they're trying to catch.

The turn is probably a good card for you, giving you an up and down straight draw along with your overpair. If you look at the stack sizes of the two remaining villains, they are both less than a pot sized bet. Therefore I would go all in to try and extract as much value from their Qx/Jx/Tx type hands. Even if we are behind, we still have 8 outs to a straight.

I think you were always destined to lose to villain 2 and their QQ, so don't worry about the result too much!
 
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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 04:01 PM
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I have passed the Cash Game quiz.

A person would bet big:
- to put pressure on opponents,
- to protect against strong draws,
- to gain value for strong, made hands
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:48 AM
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Just informing you again that I have completed my 3 tasks.
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Smrtez View Post
Just informing you again that I have completed my 3 tasks.
Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Bad play by me.
First of all I played a less than premium hand, but got lucky on the flop. (I only played it since I was on the CO though)
Then I got agressive and tried to get him to fold, but couldn't. (This was a good play I suppose)
But then a king comes to the river and he shoves. I knew he had it, but I didn't have the heart to fold.

Last edited by Smrtez; Mon Dec 23, 2013 at 03:02 PM..
 
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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 07:36 AM
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Please Note: Due to the holiday period please allow extra time for your Bankroll Builder reply from the Team. We will reply to your thread on December 27th.


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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 12:27 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers


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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 07:14 PM
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Hi Smrtez,

I think you're being a bit hard on yourself - I like the way you played the vast majority of the hand.

In poker you don't only have to play premium hands. If you do, you will become very predictable. You should look to play a wider range of hands from late position (mainly the Button and the Cutoff) as it will be easier for you to play the hand.

JT is a good hand to raise with. You needn't be too concerned with the limper in front of you - he likely has a weak or moderate hand. I like your raise size, 3x the Big Blind + one BB per limper.

You hit a dream flop! A lot of people in your shoes would check to "slowplay". However slowplaying is usually NOT the correct way to extract most chips from your opponents. You make a great decision to make a Continuation Bet. I very much like your CBet size, it's nice and big.

However your reason for making the CBet was wrong. When you bet, it is usually either as a bluff (you want your opponent to fold a better hand than yours) or for value (you want your opponent to call/raise with a worse hand than yours).

If your opponent has a King, you don't want him to fold, you want him to put all his chips in the middle as you will be a huge favourite to win the hand. Therefore you are betting here for value.

More precisely, you want your opponent to pay too big a price to see another card(s) that might improve him to make the best hand. By making your size quite big, you are able extract the most value out of what is almost certainly the best hand at the moment.

You continue your aggression on the turn which is also good. I would perhaps make it slightly smaller to make it more enticing for him to call, something like $0.50-$0.55. This would make a pot of $1.66 and you would have $1.17 left, so you could easily go all in on the river for less than a pot-sized bet. However your bet size is also fine.

Of course the worst card in the deck comes on the river. You have to call $1.07 to win $2.93, giving you pot odds of ~ 2.75 to 1, meaning you only have to be correct in calling 27% of the time to show a profit.

I think this decision is very close as I also think that villain might play a Tx hand the same or he might even play a flush like this if he is a bad player.

I don't blame you for calling, I think I probably would call as well.
 
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Fri Dec 27, 2013, 10:01 AM
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Hi Smrtez,


Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Please review this video that will help you on the cash game tables.



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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