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TT hows my line? - Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
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Im not sure what i should do on the turn,as played i though the turn was a call to fill up because he bet flop and called a raise so that looks like a draw/ slowplay/ hands like KK.

Anyhow he raises the turn which could be KK QJ KT slowplayed AA 33.

Should i just put him in here i do we like my flat.

River comes a K he bets i raise he puts me in, im like here we go again my boats just been cracked. Obviously i cant fold with the price im getting.

So is my river line ok, i mean i cant just flat his river bet when he probably ent gonna fold his straight to my raise?
 
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Sun Dec 22, 2013, 05:58 PM
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Very strange line, i think your getting too creative for your own good.

My opinion of the hand:
- your deep pf, make your 3b slightly bigger than usual, and you could actually call some 4b.
- cb, cb, cb...and call any shoves.

you want to cb on flop at you can be happy that the villain might call 3b pf with a good Ace and also there is a flush draw on the flop to protect your set and to BUILD the pot.
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by behappy621 View Post
Very strange line, i think your getting too creative for your own good.

My opinion of the hand:
- your deep pf, make your 3b slightly bigger than usual, and you could actually call some 4b.
- cb, cb, cb...and call any shoves.

you want to cb on flop at you can be happy that the villain might call 3b pf with a good Ace and also there is a flush draw on the flop to protect your set and to BUILD the pot.
Do you mean im getting creative by flatting his raise on the turn?

I would happily go all in there if its the correct play but like i said he flats my raise on the flop and then he raises me on the turn, i know i have a straight there pretty much all the time if i raised.

I dont know if his turn raise with top two is good after i raised the flop but the only hands he dont own himself vs me with that turn raise is a flush draw when he has AK. So i was pretty sure i was only good if i filled up on the river.
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:26 PM
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Three bet pre then c/r the flop.
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 06:31 PM
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I think it’s perfect. Just like people play flush draw. You could bet river too and the easiest value is to re-raise turn.

Last edited by braveslice; Mon Dec 23, 2013 at 06:37 PM..
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:27 PM
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Readless, I generally just call pre, like you did. I think your line is fine till the turn, but I think I'd shove when he raises turn. If he's got AA/KK, I'm going broke right there, and I suppose QhJh shows up sometimes (but you have 10 outs against that). AK makes up a lot of his range, though, so I want to get his stack in when he has 4 outs. As played, I think just check-calling the river is best, as you're not gonna get called by worse when you check-raise. He calls with a boat and probably folds straights, so just call and show it down. If villain is ranging you, he knows you likely flopped a set, so he's only stacking off with a better boat than yours.


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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:53 PM
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Hey Mike,

preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.


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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
Hey Mike,

preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.
Cool im glad you like my line post flop, seen as you said you like the turn flat as im to deep would you just 3 bet all in on the turn then 100BB deep?
 
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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PSO-xflixx View Post
Hey Mike,

preflop I prefer to 3bet from the SB unless BB was a player I wanted to join the hand badly. You guys are deep enough so you don't need to fear a 4-bet too much.

Like the rest of the hand, would raise potsize OTF (flushdraws, Ax, gutters will most likely not fold), call his turnraise (you are a little too deep to stack off now given that he can have QJ/KK/AA) and just shove myself over villain's riverbet as I think there's enough value from all QJ combos opposed to less AA/KK/AK combos.
preflop:
i d 3bet preflop OOP too, but wut if vilain 4bet? would u 5bet/allin or fold? or still call? cuz lets say he 4bets to around 1$ and now u dont have very good odds to stack him off postflop.. so from this point of view , given the stacksizes, callin 3bet is probably good ,

postflop:
would never ever slowplay that.. i would bet , 3bet, 5bet , allin flop .. , its dream flop where he can haz feel strong with TPTK but actualy drawin dead
 

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