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zoom 10NL villain push turn - Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:42 PM
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wut u think about villain's play? what hand would u put him on?
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 03:26 PM
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I'd expect JJ or 99 most of the time. Looks like you caught a fish.
 
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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 03:43 PM
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I don't like the call pre. QTo is a pretty bad hand to call with vs UTG, when you're often dominated, and might get squeezed.
I'm with Joe on the ranging. It looks like JJ/99 or even KK/KJ. Occasionally the turn raise is a spazzy semi-bluff with , , . He could also be freerolling you with .


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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:52 PM
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Hi Naturo,

Again, fold preflop.

Post flop is fine. Looks like a set, KJ, KQ, KJ, AK, another QT, or QcJc, AcQc, AcTc semibluffing.


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Tue Dec 24, 2013, 06:44 AM
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I absolutely agree with everyone here.

The only thing I want to add is my opinion on villain's shove. It is terrible! Please do not make moves like that yourself. When he bet calls your flop raise he is basically bluffcatching since he does not beat any of your legitimate raising hands. Therefore he should realize that he either has you beat and you are drawing or spazzing or he is crushed by a set or an occasional QQ,KK,AA.

In this situation the OTT is a perfect card for him to check call imho. He is still behind all your flop value hands + your most obvious draw - QT just got there too. Shoving the turn with his hand is a terrible semibluff because it will only fold worse hands (with the exception of KQ, you might fold that) and get called by better which means he was just giving himself the worst price to draw. Even if you had a set, the turn gave him 13 outs to outdraw you. He could have easily just called again planning to fold river if he does not hit. For me it would only make sense to shove turn if I expected you to take this line with AJ,AA,QQ,KQ,KT and then fold to a shove. I think this is hardly the case at 10NL. KQ,AA and KT are generally always calling and QQ and AJ are mostly checking back.
 

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