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AK allin preflop , zoom no info - Wed Dec 25, 2013, 05:56 AM
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is it good to be protective like dis with A6o in bigblind?
is it OK for me to call him like i did?
 
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Wed Dec 25, 2013, 06:28 AM
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Without reads, at 6 max, and given how he played it, I think I would hesitantly stack off. Especially as being suited gives us a little more equity.

His play is horrific. He only gets called by premium hands the vast majority of the times.
 
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Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:26 PM
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Once you 4-bet, then you are committed to calling a shove. If you're not calling the shove, then you turned your hand into a bluff, which would be a pretty spewy thing to do with a hand as strong as AK. (With the effective stack being 100bb, 4-betting and then folding seems ridiculous to me, although you could do it with hands like AT/A6s. But there's little need to 4-bet bluff at 10NL, however, in my opinion.)
In short, if you're 4-betting, it's with the intention of stacking off. If you aren't planning to call a shove, don't 4-bet in the first place.

Math-wise, you need to call $7.70 into a final pot of $20.05. That means you need equity of 770/2005 = 38%. If villain only ever stacks off QQ+/AK, then you have 42% equity so will be slightly better than break even in this spot. If villain only stacks off pairs, you don't have the right price, as you'll have about 34% equity vs QQ+. If villain ever gets it in with JJ or AQ, or worse you're in even better shape.


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Wed Dec 25, 2013, 10:54 PM
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Call and fist pump when you see 2 live cards
 
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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:11 AM
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Stacking off with A6o is simply terrible - you were lucky to find this villain

Your play preflop is fine. I think both calling the 3Bet in position or 4Betting are both +EV plays. Like Arty says, if your 4Bet it has to be with the intention of playing for stacks preflop.
 
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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:03 AM
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remember to note this player as an epic tard, so next time you see him you can extract extreme dollarage out of his behind


[expanding on that]
this is the type of villain you want to valuetown the crap out of, but avoid bluffing them as they will no doubt look you up and it's just wasted $
 
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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ouchbadbeat View Post
remember to note this player as an epic tard, so next time you see him you can extract extreme dollarage out of his behind


[expanding on that]
this is the type of villain you want to valuetown the crap out of, but avoid bluffing them as they will no doubt look you up and it's just wasted $
yez yez i did made note
btw u haz so many starz under ur name dat it made me dizzy
 

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